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Old May 14th, 2016, 06:45 PM   #1

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Apply for Phd-track Masters program if I intend to switch universities for PhD?


I am looking at applying to the University of Iowa history program for my Master's degree. My plan is to complete my Master's at UoI, and to then apply to one of the top-ranked universities for my doctorate in history.

Degree Requirements | Department of History | College of Liberal Arts & Sciences | The University of Iowa

Given that fact, should I be applying for "Master of Arts without admission to the Ph.D. program" or "Master of Arts leading to admission to the Ph.D. program. (M.A./Ph.D.)"?

There are financial benefits to being in the PhD-track Master's program. However, do they intend for their Phd-track Master's students to go on to get their PhD from University of Iowa, or do they expect that their PhD-track Master's students might very well apply to a doctoral program at another institution after finishing the Master's from University of Iowa?

How does that work? Will I hurt my chances at getting accepted into the PhD-track Master's program if I reveal my intentions at stepping up to a higher-ranked school for my doctorate? Will I even be eligible to apply for the PhD-track Master's program at University of Iowa if I am not intending on getting my PhD from University of Iowa?
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Old May 15th, 2016, 03:10 AM   #2

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It will not look good because you essentially burn your bridge, and I suspect you will have to go through interview for your target Ph.D. program where they might ask. You can make up some empathetic personal reasons though... But no, you probably can try this disingeunine stuff (sorry for the word choice), but really, why don't you just apply directly to your dream schools? I can't imagine the threshold for history Ph.D. programs being that drastically different. If it's GPA, you might as well take some easy As in junior college to inflate it because already having a master in history in one school is not likely to reduce the time for Ph.D. in another.
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I am looking at applying to the University of Iowa history program for my Master's degree. My plan is to complete my Master's at UoI, and to then apply to one of the top-ranked universities for my doctorate in history.

Degree Requirements | Department of History | College of Liberal Arts & Sciences | The University of Iowa

Given that fact, should I be applying for "Master of Arts without admission to the Ph.D. program" or "Master of Arts leading to admission to the Ph.D. program. (M.A./Ph.D.)"?

There are financial benefits to being in the PhD-track Master's program. However, do they intend for their Phd-track Master's students to go on to get their PhD from University of Iowa, or do they expect that their PhD-track Master's students might very well apply to a doctoral program at another institution after finishing the Master's from University of Iowa?

How does that work? Will I hurt my chances at getting accepted into the PhD-track Master's program if I reveal my intentions at stepping up to a higher-ranked school for my doctorate? Will I even be eligible to apply for the PhD-track Master's program at University of Iowa if I am not intending on getting my PhD from University of Iowa?
It's hard to say, but I would guess that people regularly leave the MA and go on to PhDs elsewhere. Still, if there are current students to ask that might be a good idea.
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