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Old January 3rd, 2017, 02:51 PM   #31

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It depends on the reason they are there. Are they workers or are they bums? Yes I said bums. Here in Salt Lake our mayor has given an entire area to the drug addicts - Pioneer Park and the Rio Grande area. - businesses are leaving and the park is a great place to get meth and heroin.

Welfare should be a safety net and that is it. Welfare should be tied more heavily to job searching. If people don't WANT to work then I care not about them.

It should not be easy or comfortable to stay on welfare. Welfare that is long-term is slavery to the state.

Edit- sorry we hijacked the thread.
Spoke too soon, didn't I?

And you have asked them if they WANT to work, right? You probably offered them jobs and they turned you down.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 03:02 PM   #32
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"Who is you(r) favorite president?" is very singularly specific, as opposed to "Who are your favorite presidents?". Do you see how the English language is able to differentiate between singular and plural?

And another thing, favorites need no defense, therefore, to attack one's favorite is rude. If your favorite color was blue, for example, it would be in poor taste for me to say, "Well, blue is a horrible choice. A lot of people hate blue."

See how TotalAaron named his favorite president instead of his list of top 5 presidents? And he did not denigrate anyone's choice that was not the same as his. He even found a nice photo of the man for us. He gets it.



Next you'll probably say you don't like poor people, because I've noticed you do that a lot.
No you didn't notice that. Point out where I said that.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 03:05 PM   #33
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Spoke too soon, didn't I?

And you have asked them if they WANT to work, right? You probably offered them jobs and they turned you down.
You can be a bleeding heart all you want. Leftist ideas to "fix" problems cause more. You are taking my comments out of context because you are unable to argue without emotion. For you, the intentions of doing good is the same as the result.

Evidence is there against leftist intervention. Ad hominem attacks are weak, btw.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 05:17 PM   #34

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To get back on track - it's hard to chose a favorite President. On what grounds should we chose? Their accomplishments? Their personality? Or how memorable they were? It depends on what values in history.
Well, for myself, I think what makes great history is a great story - so I'd say my favorite is Jefferson Davis.
Few men ever rose so high and fell so low. He is a unique entity in American politics, a dark reminder of a troubled time, and in his war against the Union did much to shape America and its culture and mythology.
He was a bad man fighting for a bad cause, he was not a good President or even a legitimate one, but his story is magnificent.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 05:40 PM   #35

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Jeferson Davis. No just kidding. I like Thomas Jefersons philosophy most.
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Old January 7th, 2017, 05:16 AM   #36
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President Trump because he's an aspiring leader and a figure you look up too.
Since Trump has yet to take office, no comparison with past presidents can be made just yet. All the presidential candidates throughout time were considered aspiring and looked up to by someone otherwise they would not have made it on to the ballot.
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Old January 7th, 2017, 05:18 AM   #37

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Since Trump has yet to take office, no comparison with past presidents can be made just yet. All the presidential candidates throughout time were considered aspiring and looked up to by someone otherwise they would not have made it on to the ballot.
look at his other posts, he is taking the piss
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That is untrue. Can you argue the point without logical fallacies?
As a former common councilman and chairman of Common Council's Education Committee I can.

Public schools face the challenge of dealing with societal ills. Poverty comes from such things as the following:
  • Homelessness due to foreclosure, due to job lost, due PTSD military stress, mental illness, student loan debt, and a whole host of other reasons.
  • Death and/or long term illness. My father was a WWII vet, who owned is own business, my mother died of suicide due to having life long agony with Diphtheria and my dad had a hard time being a single parent of two and running a business that was sued for an accident. The stress of the war, the death of his wife, the pains of raising kids and the loss of his business caused him to drink which eventually made him both a child abuser and unemployable. We ended up on welfare in my teens. I as a welfare kid, and without a college degree, went on to become an graphic artist, a graphics department manager for a $1 billion dollar medical device company, and marketing communications manager for a leading commercial shade system manufacturer. I was stable and lived in affluent southwest Connecticut where I was a common councilman. Once I retired to Florida, the 2008 financial crisis slashed my retirement plan. So now I live on my Social Security, but I own my own home outright and I bought it for cash.
  • Poverty can come from child neglect due to parents more concerned with their careers and social life than raising their kids. The kids fall behind in school and become impoverished as an adult.
  • Domestic violence at any income level can impoverish a family when one of the parents must seek shelter with their kids away from home and relocate to avoid being tracked down.
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Old January 7th, 2017, 06:05 AM   #39

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I like Lyndon Baines Johnson.

He explained why Negroes should have rights equal to those enjoyed by Whites with an accent which was not a Yankeh accent. It might seem a small thing, but at the time, every little advantage was important. Everything always happens at the margin.
I really gained a newfound respect for LBJ over the course of some of my readings last year. He's definitely one of my favorites now.
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Donald Trump :P

Honestly you have Lincoln, Washington, and the Roosevelts.

I like The Adams Boys, Carter, Ford, and HW Bush.
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