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Old December 12th, 2017, 10:51 PM   #41
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That's what it's all aboot!
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I'm surprised by this controversy, I didn't know it exists.

It's well known that Americans taking problems with their sailor's strengh enlistment in Royal Navy, imagined they could easily conquer Canada.
They were heavily mistaken.....
The British expedition on the American territory aimed to defend Canada and also retaliation against the "ungrateful colonists".
Indeed the burning of the White House on 1814 was the British answer to the burning of the assembly building in Toronto on 1813 by the "yanks".
There was never any matter of conquering the United States.
United Kingdom was already engaged in a difficult war against Napoleonic France, and its finance being in too bad conditions.
In addition, invasion of a territory as large and as populated (7 millions people at that time) was militarily irrational.
Not only did Canada win the war of 1812 but U.K also, despite some tactical defeats.
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Old December 13th, 2017, 05:55 AM   #42
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Its a fairly solid point. Canada remained intact and the red coats won. If it weren't any more obvious, the most obvious prize would have to be the Niagara Falls. Have you ever stopped to look at all the American tourists craning over from New York? It's pretty obvious when you take the view from Canada which nation actually won.

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It becomes even more obvious when you look at the White House on fire. Regardless of the outcome if you can set the centerpiece of American democracy on fire I'd say you've already won.

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Old December 14th, 2017, 11:39 PM   #43
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So Canada won by not losing. It achieved (with the UK) the status quo ante.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 01:16 AM   #44

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So Canada won by not losing. It achieved (with the UK) the status quo ante.
But that was our objective, this was a defensive war for us.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 11:20 AM   #45

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Instead of the US or UK who won the war of 1812, this site suggests Canada won the War of 1812. Interesting viewpoint one could say.

I do wonder if Canada will ever officially separate its ties with the UK. Every time I enter Canada I see portraits of Queen Elizabeth II in gov buildings.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 02:06 PM   #46

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Instead of the US or UK who won the war of 1812, this site suggests Canada won the War of 1812. Interesting viewpoint one could say.
There is some truth to this, the war ensured that Canada would later develop into a sovereign nation separate from the USA.
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Old December 16th, 2017, 12:49 AM   #47
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Most of the war was fought by populations that didnít want it. The British and Canadians certainly didnít and the Americans of Vermont, Maine and the border states were against it. But those men who were going to be furthest from the fighting were decidedly for it. Imagine that!
Who was it said that war is like the cinema?

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Old December 16th, 2017, 03:54 AM   #48

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Instead of the US or UK who won the war of 1812, this site suggests Canada won the War of 1812. Interesting viewpoint one could say.

I do wonder if Canada will ever officially separate its ties with the UK. Every time I enter Canada I see portraits of Queen Elizabeth II in gov buildings.
Of course not, they're our beloved cousins. Beside they need something to distinguish themselves from the Yanks and kick the Quebecers with.
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Old December 16th, 2017, 07:26 AM   #49

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Everyone lost. But there is a definitive border between the two nations as a result, so, there's that. That's about the only thing that separates Canada from the US. Having grown up two city blocks from the border, I spent half of my childhood in Ontario. That was when crossing the border was about the same as stopping for a red light. That is, depending on the direction,

Where were you born? (or simply, citizenship?)
Where are you going? (or, where have you been?)
How long will you be there? (or, how long were you there?)
Do you have anything to declare?
Go ahead..

No drivers license or birth certificate was necessary, let alone a PASSPORT!
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Old December 17th, 2017, 11:09 AM   #50
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America won!

Thing is, the place wasn't worth keeping. Snowed all the time, wolves everywhere. And the only MacDonalds up there were wearing kilts and had an attitude.
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