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Old December 22nd, 2017, 11:41 AM   #11

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I grew up hearing "shoddy", but that was in a small town rooted in the Sonoran Desert; a place that was closer to the beginning of the 20th century than the end. I haven't heard the word used lately, and wrongly assumed it obsolete. I've never heard the term "shoddyite", that was the term used by the OP. Knowing a little English, the definition I proposed seems reasonable. What causes people to put values on things in-tune with our perception of their differing value.
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 06:17 PM   #12
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I never came across the word shoddyite before but it turns up here as "imitator of the upper classes."
That's what I'm searching for!
There are two shoddyites ever were: the first refereed to 1865, and the second did to 1883.
The one who is from 1883, was probably imitating the nouveau riches!!! That's why they are so close! Thank you very, very, very much!!
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I've seen 'shoddy' as a descriptor of grossly inferior cloth quality in union army uniforms in the US civil war . . . uniforms which quickly fell apart with minimal use.

Ash, don't feel odd about use of the word 'shoddy' in the wilds of Arizona; I can remember its common use to describe just about anything of inferior production in the tidewater of Virginia in my youth and we're about the same age. Truth be known, I still use it on occasion to describe poor workmanship or material.
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"Shoddy" is used in the US to describe a substandard quality of work or manufacture.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 06:20 AM   #15
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Hi Asherman.

A minor nitpick, 'shoddy' is not archaic in the UK - it's still in common use. Interesting that it used to be used in the US, though. I got my hands on some reprints of old American comics form the 1930s and 40s (the early days of Superman, Batman and their ilk), and was surprised by words (like 'bloke') that, from a 21st century viewpoint, sound distinctively British or Antipodean.
“Shoddy” is not an archaic American term. It is current parlance. I’m unfamiliar with the term “Shoddyite”. I wonder why the term is capitalized. In any event, the way the word is used would imply that it refers to “someone who is shoddy”, perhaps meaning cheap or of low quality.
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Since I have not heard the term in many years, and haven't used it for even longer, I mistakenly assumed the word had gone out of fashion.
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Since I have not heard the term in many years, and haven't used it for even longer, I mistakenly assumed the word had gone out of fashion.
I got it.The sense is the nobelmen felt disgust to nouveaux riches, because of those unlike themselves got their riches during the industrial revolution, but not because of there linege, there must have been some social encounter, and the nobelmen called nouveaux riches as shoodyites, - imitators of the uper class,literaly " belongs to shoddy"
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