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Old February 12th, 2018, 04:53 PM   #1
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Post Anyone good at deciphering old documents and writing?


Hi!
So after doing some research about my ancestors and such, I discovered some documents about my ancestor's (father's side) son concerning his death and such things, but the writing, oh god, is just weird!
I have attached these documents and I would like to know if someone is able to decipher them .
WARNING: These documents are in old french!
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If you need a little context, here it is!
My ancestor was born in 1663 and was from Saintonge.
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Saintonge on the map

He enlisted in the army (Compagnies Franches de la Marine, under Demesnil's company) so that he could get a free passage to the New World, more specifically New France.
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Typical soldier of the Compagnies Franches de la Marine

When he arrived, he settled in the city of Ville-Marie, the old name for Montréal.
He was married 2 times. The first time with Marie-Madeleine Cherlot (se died at 27 years old) and second time with Louise-Marie Cherau.
Since documents about him are rare or are missing, few is known about what he has done there. Maybe he stayed in the army (which is the most probable theory), but we'll never be 100% sure.
He later died in 1751, at the age of 88.
If anyone has info about my ancestor (which I doubt anyone really will),
please, let me know!


In case anyone thinks this little overlook is bad, I'm just 15 and I am therefore learning .
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Old February 12th, 2018, 04:54 PM   #2
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If you ever need a better resolution of these images, let me know and I'll send them to you via Google Drive or Imgur, whichever you prefer.
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Old February 13th, 2018, 11:11 AM   #3
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Update: Here are the real ones (the other 2 were something else :P):

Tutelle des enfants mineurs de feu Simon Imbeault et Marie Durand . - 4 avril 1761:
Page 1: https://i.imgur.com/sHFPmgS.jpg
Page2:
https://i.imgur.com/k3WV2xJ.jpg

Tutelle des enfants mineurs des défunts Simon Imbeault Masta et Marie Durand [Marchet] . - 12 février 1760:
https://i.imgur.com/6I6NRP8.jpg
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Old February 14th, 2018, 11:27 AM   #4
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I don't think I'm going to try to decipher the text, but the first few words in each paragraph (on just the first page) appear to be "mil sept cent soixante" maybe "soixante un" (1760 or 1761). The very first word might be an abbreviation for "the year." And then the first two paragraphs appear to have the date 31 March, and 4 April respectively.

Hopefully someone who knows French might be able to take a look at these. Good luck.

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Old February 14th, 2018, 03:18 PM   #5
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I don't think I'm going to try to decipher the text, but the first few words in each paragraph (on just the first page) appear to be "mil sept cent soixante" maybe "soixante un" (1760 or 1761). The very first word might be an abbreviation for "the year." And then the first two paragraphs appear to have the date 31 March, and 4 April respectively.

Hopefully someone who knows French might be able to take a look at these. Good luck.
Oh yes I see! It indeed says "mil sept cents soixante un le 31 mars". The other one is pretty tricky but I think it is too.
Thanks
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Even for a Frenchman it's difficult to decipher, not because of the language (not really old French), but because of the handwriting and especially of the low quality of the picture.
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Exactly.
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Old February 16th, 2018, 09:19 AM   #8

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There's a great Facebook group for getting translations of genealogy documents, they should be able to help: https://www.facebook.com/groups/genealogytranslation/
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If you speak French well, which I don't, you probably should take some time with the document untill you familiarize with the caligraphy. I was able to read 19th Century church registers with this kind of caligraphy or even worse though the image was better. What took more time was understanding some names which are not in current use so the association was more difficult. Unfortunately pre 19th cebtury registers were destroyed in many places by the French invasions.
Curious how these documents look alike even in the writting.

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