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Old July 10th, 2018, 04:06 AM   #1

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I've always wondered about the names of U.S. Army bases. Unlike some of my fellow veterans, I'm not opposed per se to naming U.S. Army bases after Confederate Generals. This is in light of Chamberlain's salute of Gordon's surrendering Confederates, the war has been over for over 100 years, and the fact that many of Lee's and Jackson's tactics are still taught at West Point.

However, I'm curious if anyone has any info as to how undeniably bad generals (like Braxton Bragg) got bases named after them. Or how regular "who's that?" generals like Henry L. Benning got bases named after them. Even "Fort Hood" is questionable given John Bell Hood's lackluster performance when commanding anything higher than a division.

Seriously, I'd be okay with a "Fort Cornwallis" or "Fort Arnold" because at least Charles Cornwallis and Benedict Arnold were good generals. But who the **** in the South thought "Fort Bragg" was a good idea?

Then again, Fort Bragg hosts Pope Field...and John Pope ranks among the worst Union generals. I suppose its too much to ask that our bases at least be named after generals who didn't suck. Let the U.S. Navy lead the way with the U.S.S. Gabrielle Giffords...
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Pope Air Force Base was named for 1LT Harley Halbert Pope, USA, who was killed in in a plane crash in 1919, not for John Pope, the inept US commander at 2d Manassas.

I sometimes wonder when the 'change the name' gang will get around to posts named for Confederate generals.
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Bragg being honoured in North Carolina is as unsurprising as finding the van Rensselaer name attached to something every fifty feet in New York.
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Well, the Navy (in its infinite and unchallenged wisdom) has abandoned tradition and taken to naming its biggest and most expensive vessels for politicians. An admiral once told me that "traditions" don't vote for appropriations. Maybe the names of some Army bases have a similar provenance.(?)
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I sometimes wonder when the 'change the name' gang will get around to posts named for Confederate generals.
The "change the name" gang provides information on its scheduling of the removing of names of persons who committed treason against the U.S. government from government installations on a "need to know" basis.

We'll let you know when we will be getting to it when we think you need to know.
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Old July 10th, 2018, 05:03 AM   #6

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I believe it had to do with where the bases are located. Ft. Hood in Texas for example, and John Bell Hood was from Texas.

No U.S. military bases should have ever been named after Confederate generals however, since those men were fighting against the U.S. military to create a new nation. It's a bit ridiculous when you think about it. Ft. Lee (named for Robert E. Lee) for example should be renamed Ft. Thomas or Ft. Scott, after George Thomas or Winfield Scott, Virginians who didn't betray their country and weren't responsible for the deaths of U.S. soldiers.
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The "change the name" gang provides information on its scheduling of the removing of names of persons who committed treason against the U.S. government from government installations on a "need to know" basis.

We'll let you know when we will be getting to it when we think you need to know.

More history denial?
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More history denial?
Any possibility you could put an intelligible thought together? I can't decipher gobblity-gook.
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Bragg being honoured in North Carolina is as unsurprising as finding the van Rensselaer name attached to something every fifty feet in New York.
The incompetent general held the biggest estate in the US, so whatever is named van Rensselaer is probably named for other members of his family or the family in general.
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The incompetent general held the biggest estate in the US, so whatever is named van Rensselaer is probably named for other members of his family or the family in general.
Naturally. And the Bragg family were producing governors, senators, legislators and were in all ways a local big deal in NC. So yeah. Not surprising.
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