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May 26th, 2010, 07:11 PM
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#1 | | Lecturer
Joined: Mar 2010 From: New Orleans, LA (well in August anyway) Posts: 297 | Was the American Revolution a Revolution?
I have thought about this question a lot, and I personally don't think the American Revolution was in fact a revolution. I think of revolution as being defined by violent change, but in fact, the American Revolution was an attempt to maintain the political autonomy the colonies were used to. Not until the constitution convention were any substantial changes to the political society made, and even those more acted to replace the role fo the British Government while precluding the intrusions of "unfair" taxation taken in the era after the French and Indian war. What are your guys thoughts?
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May 26th, 2010, 07:25 PM
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#2 | | Archivist
Joined: Dec 2009 From: Illinois Posts: 189 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution? Quote:
Originally Posted by riotbeard , but in fact, the American Revolution was an attempt to maintain the political autonomy the colonies were used to. | PIG does a good job of explaining this one. It makes the claim that there really wasn't a revolution by radical founding fathers, but of conservative people who wanted to maintain, as riotbeard said, their usual way of life(autonomy), that was being threatened by an outside force.
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May 26th, 2010, 08:00 PM
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#3 | | Contrarian
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,585 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution?
The US may have been somewhat autonomous, but it wasn't sovereign, and it certainly wasn't a republic. Installing a new political regime (the republic) and declaring sovereignty is definately a revolution.
The dictionary definition of a revolution is, "a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed". I can't see how it can be argued that this didn't happen.
It's right there on the US currency, "Novus Ordo Seclorum", a new order for the ages.
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May 26th, 2010, 08:07 PM
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#4 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 19,934 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution?
A conservative revolution is still a revolution.
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May 27th, 2010, 09:01 AM
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#5 | | Scholar
Joined: Jan 2010 From: Atlanta, Georgia USA Posts: 727 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution?
By sheer coincidence, I was thinking about this this morning. Isn't the usual revolution where a country suddenly overturns its own government--e.g. France, Russia? The US just threw a colonialist power out. E.g. In Mexico, the "Revolution" is usually the name for the early 20th Century revolt against Diaz, and the out-break of anti-Spanish sentiment in the early 19th C. the "Insurgency."
But (and this is a huge but), the American Revolution has always been called a revolution, so it has to be one, right?
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May 27th, 2010, 09:07 AM
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#6 | | Fiddling as Rome Burns
Joined: Apr 2008 From: Hyperborea Posts: 7,054 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution?
This is simply a question of semantics, what do you define a revolution as?
It wasn't a revolution in the same sense as the British, French or Russian Revolutions.
However it is a revolution similar to the Southern Revolution (American Civil War), Tamil Tigers Revolution and current Palestinian Revolution.
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May 27th, 2010, 09:08 AM
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#7 | | Lecturer
Joined: Mar 2010 From: New Orleans, LA (well in August anyway) Posts: 297 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution? Quote:
Originally Posted by David Vagamundo By sheer coincidence, I was thinking about this this morning. Isn't the usual revolution where a country suddenly overturns its own government--e.g. France, Russia? The US just threw a colonialist power out. E.g. In Mexico, the "Revolution" is usually the name for the early 20th Century revolt against Diaz, and the out-break of anti-Spanish sentiment in the early 19th C. the "Insurgency."
But (and this is a huge but), the American Revolution has always been called a revolution, so it has to be one, right? | I think of it as more secession or throwing a colonial power. The local power structure really didn't change until the constitutional convention which was a not a part of the "revolution". There was no violent change that marks most revolution.
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May 27th, 2010, 09:11 AM
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#8 | | Epicurean
Joined: Mar 2009 From: Texas Posts: 23,849 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution?
Yes, it was a revolution.
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May 27th, 2010, 09:41 AM
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#9 | | The Adequate Mostly Harmless
Joined: Dec 2009 From: Tennessee Posts: 7,829 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution?
I think that the American Revolution qualifies in the sense that the British Constitution no longer applied on the former American Colonies. The set up their own Constitution and went their own way irrespective of the wishes of the Crown and Parliament.
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May 27th, 2010, 09:46 AM
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#10 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Dec 2009 From: Ozarkistan Posts: 11,335 | Re: Was the American Revolution a Revolution?
What the hell -- let's call it apotheosis.
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