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Old April 13th, 2011, 03:49 PM   #1
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What Is Up With The Presidents?


From what I have noticed from history is that presidents often make bold statements, especially during campaigning. Now, I know it is what the people want to hear, but why are they so bold? Chances are, they have no real power in actually carrying out their promises; it is up to Congress whether the president's proposals are put into law. Why do presidential nominees make such bold statements as if the president's office is the throne? The Constitution was designed so that laws take a long time to establish into law. The president is not given much power so he does not make rash decisions and the options get weighed and debated in Congress. Now, why is it that over the history of America, the president has been getting more and more power?
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People seem to buy into it.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 04:27 PM   #3

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Every four years "some" the people' fall for the lines uttered by the candidate(s)
as if, as you wrote, that he/she is going to change things.
Some proclaim as if "Elect me and I will change things the way they should be" when they end up doing the same things the person in office before them did.
I'm just amazed at how after four years, the same person who did nothing for one term, has the acorns to sell themselves again to the same people. Stop dreaming with your eyes open.
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People seem to buy into it.
It's called marketing.
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Exactly, Pike. They want to market themselves to the people to get into the highest office. I wonder if they just do it to get rich and famous?
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Exactly, Pike. They want to market themselves to the people to get into the highest office. I wonder if they just do it to get rich and famous?
They are already rich.Famous? Famous in their own small worlds. Their egos force them to migrate to larger fields to feed the constant burn for more adulation. Why else would a person think they can solve a nation's issues in eight years or less?
Most incoming presidents have their own personal agenda and then will use their power and powers of persuasion to force a nation to adopt their pet projects.
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Even if a new candidate promises 'change', they quickly find out once they are in office how difficult it is to accomplish things. Between lobbyist and various groups that donate or have donated to get and keep that candidate in the Oval Office, I can see how the Pres can become jaded with the whole thing and be forced to change his views on 'change'.

Not saying its impossible, just not as easy at what they thought.

I think a good start would be to get rid of career politicians and get mostly 'new blood' in the system. And, ban or limit special interest groups that are in the polticians ear and lining their pockets.
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Even if a new candidate promises 'change', they quickly find out once they are in office how difficult it is to accomplish things.
Sadly, party politics gets in the way and causes a log jam of ideas that get stopped because the other party thought of it. The nation as a whole suffers because of stiff-necked career politicians.

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Between lobbyist and various groups that donate or have donated to get and keep that candidate in the Oval Office, I can see how the Pres can become jaded with the whole thing and be forced to change his views on 'change'.
Agreed. Expecting the thick rich flow of money from lobbyist to stop is like having a gangrene leg and expecting the patient to cut it off, on their own, with a pocket knife. You know you really need to remove it, but you just don't know how.


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I think a good start would be to get rid of career politicians and get mostly 'new blood' in the system. And, ban or limit special interest groups that are in the polticians ear and lining their pockets.
Great great idea.
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I think it America as a whole is just stupid. If people would take time to focus on these issues, as you did, then they would see it doesn't matter what the president promises it is very unlikely it might get done. Which brings me to another point why do the representivesnot represent their districts. I mean if a there is discussion about a law being passed to ban blue shirts then why don't each representive of each district hold a vote on the law and then represent their district's voice as they are suppose to do.
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Clear observation Pruitt. Congress loves to ignore the voters who sent them to DC to be their voice in the nation's actions. Once in DC, Congress seems to be breathing rarefied air and move in a different orbit that is counter productive to the laws of nature.
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