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Old November 18th, 2011, 08:26 AM   #11

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Oswald was assassinated because Ruby was angry at what he had done. Ruby wasn't killed. He died of cancer.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 08:27 AM   #12

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Not to mention the massive coverup performed by the FBI, and the CIA, the extent of which has been revealed in the documents released to the ARRB, in 1998. Not so strangely, hardly publicized by the major media.
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Yes CB.
The doctored up photo of Oswald being murdered by Ruby has been around
for decades.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 08:29 AM   #14

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Not to mention the massive coverup performed by the FBI, and the CIA, the extent of which has been revealed in the documents released to the ARRB, in 1998. Not so strangely, hardly publicized by the major media.
'Conspiracy theories. Because changing history is fun.'

Why Jack Ruby Killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 08:59 AM   #15
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If he acted alone why was he assassinated right after and his assassin killed as well. Somebody had to give the orders to kill the assassins.
It is common courtesy before doing a hit to get permission from the godfather. Oswald may have been killed simply because he didn't ask permission.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 09:01 AM   #16

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A couple of items discovered bu the congressional ARRB in 1998:

Excerpts from declassified documents that say a man impersonating Lee Harvey Oswald called the Soviet embassy in Mexico City just weeks before President Kennedy was assassinated, and that investigators listened to a tape of the call.

Memo Nov. 23, 1963 from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to Secret Service Chief James Rowley:
``The Central Intelligence Agency advised that on Oct. 1, 1963, an extremely sensitive source had reported that an individual identifed himself as Lee Oswald, who contacted the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City inquiring as to any messages.
``Special Agents of this bureau, who have conversed with Oswald in Dallas, Texas, have observed photographs of the individual referred to above and have listened to a recording of his voice. These Special Agents are of the opinion that the above-referred-to individual was not Lee Harvey Oswald.''

AP-NY-11-21-99 1246EST
Copyright 1999 The Associated Press.

Oswald was being impersonated.


The central contention of the report is that brain photographs in the Kennedy records are not of Kennedy's brain and show much less damage than Kennedy sustained when he was shot in Dallas and brought to Parkland Hospital there on Nov. 22, 1963. The doctors at Parkland told reporters then that they thought Kennedy was shot from the front and not from behind as the Warren Commission later concluded. "I am 90 to 95 percent certain that the photographs in the Archives are not of President Kennedy's brain," Horne, a former naval officer, said in an interview. "If they aren't, that can mean only one thing -- that there has been a coverup of the medical evidence." Horne contends that the damage to the second brain reflected a shot from behind. He says the first brain was Kennedy's and reflected a shot from the front.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...fk/jfk1110.htm


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It is common courtesy before doing a hit to get permission from the godfather. Oswald may have been killed simply because he didn't ask permission.
How do you know he didn't ask permission. Where's the evidence for that. I sure get tired of all the unwarranted assumptions by the conspiracy theorists.
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A couple of items discovered bu the congressional ARRB in 1998:

Excerpts from declassified documents that say a man impersonating Lee Harvey Oswald called the Soviet embassy in Mexico City just weeks before President Kennedy was assassinated, and that investigators listened to a tape of the call.

Memo Nov. 23, 1963 from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to Secret Service Chief James Rowley:
``The Central Intelligence Agency advised that on Oct. 1, 1963, an extremely sensitive source had reported that an individual identifed himself as Lee Oswald, who contacted the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City inquiring as to any messages.
``Special Agents of this bureau, who have conversed with Oswald in Dallas, Texas, have observed photographs of the individual referred to above and have listened to a recording of his voice. These Special Agents are of the opinion that the above-referred-to individual was not Lee Harvey Oswald.''

AP-NY-11-21-99 1246EST
Copyright 1999 The Associated Press.

Oswald was being impersonated.


The central contention of the report is that brain photographs in the Kennedy records are not of Kennedy's brain and show much less damage than Kennedy sustained when he was shot in Dallas and brought to Parkland Hospital there on Nov. 22, 1963. The doctors at Parkland told reporters then that they thought Kennedy was shot from the front and not from behind as the Warren Commission later concluded. "I am 90 to 95 percent certain that the photographs in the Archives are not of President Kennedy's brain," Horne, a former naval officer, said in an interview. "If they aren't, that can mean only one thing -- that there has been a coverup of the medical evidence." Horne contends that the damage to the second brain reflected a shot from behind. He says the first brain was Kennedy's and reflected a shot from the front.

Washingtonpost.com: JFK Assassination Report


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Old November 18th, 2011, 10:10 AM   #19
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How do you know he didn't ask permission. Where's the evidence for that. I sure get tired of all the unwarranted assumptions by the conspiracy theorists.
I have no idea. The question was why would the mafia have Oswald killed if they were not involved, and I threw out the idea that the mafia would have had him kill simply for not asking permission. I was not making an assumption just suggesting another alternative.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 10:14 AM   #20

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Here we go again
Yep. I think that a discussion every year in late November of the assassination of JFK qualifies as a tradition here at Historum.
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