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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:04 AM   #321

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So.......The National Enquirer doesn't qualify as serious history?

I'm so disappointed!
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:24 AM   #322

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I did the same thing and that is where I came upon the site I posted earlier where "Yankee" was trolling in it too. Like I said its all garbage.



Infants can't work and then you'd have to take someone off the job to take care of the infant. Who would buy an infant slave?
What is your problem? Stop calling me a troll. I'm not the Yankee on that site. If I had no compunction about saying things that aren't true, would I be here inquiring about the verocity of thoes statements? You do realize there "Yankee" is a common handle, no? There is an entire area and a baseball team with legions of fans that refer to themselves as yankee.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:25 AM   #323

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Ok, so let's say the hunt list isn't true. What about being far away from the fighting, Longstreet's comments, and the fire set that were put out by Union troops?
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:29 AM   #324

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Ok, so let's say the hunt list isn't true. What about being far away from the fighting, Longstreet's comments, and the fire set that were put out by Union troops?
Sometimes when you're in a hole, it's best to stop digging.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:30 AM   #325

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Have you done any reading on Robert E. Lee? Read any books about him or did you just glean this information off the internet and want us to do your research for you?

Read several books on Robert E. Lee. Our members could probably provide you with the names of several good books.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:43 AM   #326

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I've already recommended Alan T. Nolan's Lee Considered, which is a critical look at Lee, though somehow I suspect that even that wouldn't be enough for this user... There's actually not any particularly good biographies of Lee out there, frankly, so you just have to read broadly on the Civil War in the east.

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What about being far away from the fighting
What's your evidence that Lee was further away from the fighting than any other Civil War general? It's not his job to get shot on the front lines; and in fact, twice during the Overland Campaign, Lee tried to personally lead a brigade forward before his troops sent him back.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:54 AM   #327

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Even Reading the Man would be infinitely better than this garbage.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 06:17 AM   #328

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There's a few near-facts buried in the bile.

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Longstreet also wrote about Lee often complaining about his health, and trying to get relieved of command, so he could get out of the Army, the last six months of the war. Davis turned him down.
Lee did attempt to resign after Gettysburg, citing ill health among other things. This appears to be the only time Lee sought to resign.

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The fires Lee ordered set spread, nearly burning the whole town down, because no males were around to put it out. The mayor of RIchmond , 80 years old, had to ride out to the Union troops the next morning under a white flat, and ASK the Union soldiers to come in and help put out the fires.
Fires were set in the Richmond warehouse district, but it's unclear which Confederate officer ordered them. This was not the first time retreating Confederates had burned military supplies to keep them out of Union hands. Most of Richmond survived, though the business district was heavily damaged. Mayor Joseph Mayo was 70.

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Lee was ordered NOT to surrender by Davis, but Lee did anyway.
Davis did order Johnston and Beauregard not to surrender, but he was in no position to give Lee such an order.

The rest of the claims aren't accurate enough to count as near-truth.

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Sometimes when you're in a hole, it's best to stop digging.
How on earth am I in a hole? Seriously? Have I made these claims? Is fact checking frowned upon here?
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I've already recommended Alan T. Nolan's Lee Considered, which is a critical look at Lee, though somehow I suspect that even that wouldn't be enough for this user... There's actually not any particularly good biographies of Lee out there, frankly, so you just have to read broadly on the Civil War in the east.

I'm sorry I didn't see you recommend this, I'll look into it. I have no idea why you think it wouldn't be enough for me?
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Have you done any reading on Robert E. Lee? Read any books about him or did you just glean this information off the internet and want us to do your research for you?
No, I have not read any books on him. Yes this is info I got from the net. Yes, I'm asking for help. No, I'm not asking you to do reseach for me. This is a forum for discussion. Perhaps it should be shut down and replaced with a page that simply says "do your own research"?
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Old November 15th, 2012, 06:20 AM   #330

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You should always do your own research. And then ask questions about what you've read or learned from your research. Everyone here tries to respond based on their knowledge from their own research and reading and their ideas and thoughts based on their reading.

The internet is a terrible place to learn from; its full of bad websites with erroneous information. Some are better than others. Reading whether books or articles on the subject is best.

You'll find that most of our members also strongly recommend reading primary sources such as diaries, letters, chronicles, etc.

This is a subject that clearly interests you, so read up on it!

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