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Old July 13th, 2006, 05:45 AM   #1

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Top Ten Presidents


History World has this list of top ten presidents. I posted them here for your consideration and comments. The list can be viewed in total at http://history-world.org/top_ten_presidents.htm

The Top Ten Presidents

1. Washington
2. Lincoln
3. Franklin Roosevelt
4. Harry Truman
5. Thomas Jefferson
6. T. Roosevelt
7. A. Jackson
8. Reagan
9. W. Wilson
10. Eisenhower

Ranking Our Presidents
Surveys are only as good as their methodology, so we thought you should see all the work that went into developing this presidential ranking. We started off by developing a list of more than 130 scholars, out of which 78 responded. To keep the rankings balanced politically we picked scholars from both liberal and conservative ideological camps and asked them to rate each president on a one to five point scale. The results were much more interesting than a mere ranking of each president. We learned things like, the length of time in office can have a big impact on how history perceives a president, but how old a president is when he is sworn in has almost no impact. We also thought about things like, how the presidents who served before parties chose candidates in nominating conventions are perceived today.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 08:34 AM   #2
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Thanks Ragz. This is cool
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Can I ask why Reagan and Andrew Jackson are on the top 10 list? Don't you think John Adams deserves a spot on that list above Reagan?
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Can I ask why Reagan and Andrew Jackson are on the top 10 list? Don't you think John Adams deserves a spot on that list above Reagan?
This list ranks the presidents, not their life's work. There is a big difference.
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I agree that Lincoln is one of the more important presidents. He freed the slaves and brought a whole new level to equality in America. Yes, slaves didn't have rights for a while because of the Jim Crowe laws, but he still did free them, persay, and that is better than nothing, I suppose. Good list, though! Great job!
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I agree that Lincoln is one of the more important presidents. He freed the slaves and brought a whole new level to equality in America. Yes, slaves didn't have rights for a while because of the Jim Crowe laws, but he still did free them, persay, and that is better than nothing, I suppose. Good list, though! Great job!
Lincoln did not free the slaves. The Emancipation Proclemation did little more than keep England out of the war. It stated that those who were slaves in the north would remain, but those in the states of rebellion were free. However, since he had no authority over the southern government it was nothing more than words. He did start the nation on the path to free them with the 14th amendment not long after his death.

I'd say Lincoln was one of the better politicians this counrty has seen, he knew exactly how to keep us looking like the aggressors and our cause look as if we were fighting to keep slavery.
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Jackson might be on the list for his work in removing the national banks, but should NOT be on the list for how he handled the Native American issue during his presidency. He signed into law the Indian Removal Act, which pretty much forced all Native Americans out of the east coast.
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Jackson might be on the list for his work in removing the national banks, but should NOT be on the list for how he handled the Native American issue during his presidency. He signed into law the Indian Removal Act, which pretty much forced all Native Americans out of the east coast.
It came to be known as the "Trail of Tears," for good reason.
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Here is the rest of the list.

Great
1 George Washington 4.92 5 0.27
2 Abraham Lincoln 4.87 5 0.60
3 Franklin Roosevelt 4.67 5 0.75

Near Great
4. Harry Truman
5. Thomas Jefferson
6. T. Roosevelt
7. A. Jackson
8. Reagan
9. W. Wilson
10. Eisenhower
11 James Polk

Above Average
12 Grover Cleveland 3.36 3 0.63
13 John Adams 3.36 3 0.80
14 William McKinley 3.33 3 0.62
15 James Madison 3.29 3 0.71
16 James Monroe 3.27 3 0.60
17 Lyndon Johnson 3.21 3.5 1.04
18 John Kennedy 3.17 3 0.73

Average
19 William Taft 3.00 3 0.66
20 John Quincy Adams 2.93 3 0.76
21 George Bush 2.92 3 0.68
22 Rutherford Hayes 2.79 3 0.55
23 Martin Van Buren 2.77 3 0.61
24 William Clinton 2.77 3 1.11
25 Calvin Coolidge 2.71 3 0.97
26 Chester Arthur 2.71 3 0.56

Below Average
27 Benjamin Harrison 2.62 3 0.54
28 Gerald Ford 2.59 3 0.61
29 Herbert Hoover 2.53 3 0.87
30 Jimmy Carter 2.47 2 0.75
31 Zachary Taylor 2.40 2 0.68
32 Ulysses Grant 2.28 2 0.89
33 Richard Nixon 2.22 2 1.07
34 John Tyler 2.03 2 0.72
35 Millard Fillmore 1.91 2 0.74

Failure
36 Andrew Johnson 1.65 1 0.81
37T Franklin Pierce 1.58 1 0.68
37T Warren Harding 1.58 1 0.77
39 James Buchanan 1.33 1 0.62
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What was James Polk known for? He is often one of the forgetten Presidents when people try to name them.
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