The US in Central America - Page 3 - Historum

purpleguy89 · May 7th, 2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingleonel

America doesn't own the World or do they? A little diplomacy in a World full of self interest would be fair. America has one thing more important than democracy and that's called sovereignty. I believe Nations should be free to govern, succeed at it or fail on their own. How would we not know of a better system if countries aren't giving the freedom to try new innovative ways to govern?

Not to fuss your feathers, but why is America used so much? Confusion between the USA and the continent happens only too often with the liberal use given to these terms. Just saying.

**pikeshot1600** · May 7th, 2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingleonel

America is God and everyone else is their servants. Shouldn’t all these Countries determine on their own what Foreign Relations and Government they want to have without the influence of Big Brother?

From the standpoint of the vital interests of the United States, no - they should not.

**pikeshot1600** · May 7th, 2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by purpleguy89

Yes, Central America as well as the Greater Antilles have been central to US foreign policy.

As far as I know, the United Fruit Company pretty much owned the economies of Honduras and Guatemala (as well as Cuba, for a time). I think Nicaragua was mostly a military interest, though it's still a mistery what the US intended for that country. The US role in El Salvador is even more mysterious.

That policy pretty much ended, for the most part, by 1990. The US still seems to see Haiti as central to their foreign policy interests though.

No mystery at all. None of those states can be allowed to provide support for the military forces of other major powers. Nicaragua was trending toward client status to the USSR. Cuba had done the same, and it was made clear in 1962 that the US would invade Cuba if major Soviet weapons, or major forces, were deployed there.

The Soviet navy, in the 1980s, was not going to operate from bases in either Nicaragua, or Grenada or anywhere else. That is not going to change in regard to Venezuela, or to other powers' military influence anywhere in the Caribbean.

The Caribbean is a US sphere of influence. Anyone who can't accomodate to that - too bad.

purpleguy89 · May 7th, 2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pikeshot1600

No mystery at all. None of those states can be allowed to provide support for the military forces of other major powers. Nicaragua was trending toward client status to the USSR. Cuba had done the same, and it was made clear in 1962 that the US would invade Cuba if major Soviet weapons, or major forces, were deployed there.

The Soviet navy, in the 1980s, was not going to operate from bases in either Nicaragua, or Grenada or anywhere else. That is not going to change in regard to Venezuela, or to other powers' military influence anywhere in the Caribbean.

The Caribbean is a US sphere of influence. Anyone who can't accomodate to that - too bad.

And then there are people who claim that history is objective and unbiased. Just saying.

Kingleonel · May 7th, 2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pikeshot1600

No mystery at all. None of those states can be allowed to provide support for the military forces of other major powers. Nicaragua was trending toward client status to the USSR. Cuba had done the same, and it was made clear in 1962 that the US would invade Cuba if major Soviet weapons, or major forces, were deployed there.

The Soviet navy, in the 1980s, was not going to operate from bases in either Nicaragua, or Grenada or anywhere else. That is not going to change in regard to Venezuela, or to other powers' military influence anywhere in the Caribbean.

The Caribbean is a US sphere of influence. Anyone who can't accomodate to that - too bad.

So USA can make any Allies they want and other countries in the sphere cannot. Hypocrisy at its best.....

Kingleonel · May 7th, 2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by purpleguy89

Not to fuss your feathers, but why is America used so much? Confusion between the USA and the continent happens only too often with the liberal use given to these terms. Just saying.

My mistake, point taken.

WeisSaul · May 8th, 2012, 04:20 AM

The US has a predominate interest in:
A) Hegemony over Northern America, Central America, and the Caribbean basin.
B) Keeping any Eurasian power from influencing any country in the Americas.
C) Dominating the pacific in order to profit from East Asian and Oceanian trade.
D) Prevent anyone from limiting the United States in the Atlantic.

South of the Amazon rainforest, the US has little interest so long as no foreign power becomes involved and no hegemonic great power emerges. Thus the US has been very happy that Argentina and Brazil had such a fierce rivalry for so long.

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Originally Posted by okamido

Our involvement in Nicaragua goes waaaaaaay back. Research, William Walker.

Gotta love that guy. Long live the Republic of Sonora!