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June 8th, 2012, 12:07 PM
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#1 | | Historian
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Lago Maggiore, Italy Posts: 5,356 | Why so many skyscrapers?
From our European perspective, with our beloved "low cities", we have often wondered why in US Americans begun so early to build very high skyscrapers.
We Europeans have copied this architectural choice, but I would say with some decades of delay and in minor scale.
For example, only in these last years, In Milan we are building decent skyscrapers in the expectation of the World Expo.
So, why Americans, with all that free soil, decided already in early 20th century to "go high"?
Someone has made a parallel between the Christian European societies of the Middle Age who built high Gothic cathedrals and the liberal US society who build "Business and Commercial cathedrals", the skyscrapers ...
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June 8th, 2012, 02:26 PM
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#2 | | OBLIVIOUS
Joined: Dec 2011 From: Ohio Posts: 5,282 |
The basic answer is that land values in the big cities are sky high (no pun intended). Skyscrapers are a way to take fullest advantage of the price the developer paid for the land.
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June 8th, 2012, 02:33 PM
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#3 | | Scholar
Joined: Mar 2010 From: Ohio Posts: 891 |
It was more practical and cost efficient with our massive industrial, urbanization and economic growth of the early 20th century. We also have wider street, more modern city grids and the advantage of not having to tear down 700 year old cathedrals or ancient historic city centers.
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June 8th, 2012, 02:39 PM
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#4 | | Historian
Joined: Oct 2011 From: Lago Maggiore, Italy Posts: 5,356 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Patton It was more practical and cost efficient with our massive industrial, urbanization and economic growth of the early 20th century. We also have wider street, more modern city grids and the advantage of not having to tear down 700 year old cathedrals or ancient historic city centers. | Your mention of historical city centers makes me remind that in old European cities it's not that obvious to meet skyscrapers in the center, on the contrary.
The "directional centers" are not rarely near to the outskirts [the new skyscrapers at Milan are in the area of the building of the Region, and that's not the center, there there is the historical cathedral dome with the medieval university and other very ancient palaces].
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June 8th, 2012, 02:46 PM
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#5 | | SEMISOMNVS
Joined: Oct 2011 From: MARE PACIFICUM Posts: 4,244 | Quote:
Originally Posted by AlpinLuke Your mention of historical city centers makes me remind that in old European cities it's not that obvious to meet skyscrapers in the center, on the contrary.
The "directional centers" are not rarely near to the outskirts [the new skyscrapers at Milan are in the area of the building of the Region, and that's not the center, there there is the historical cathedral dome with the medieval university and other very ancient palaces]. | In American cities the skyscrapers tend to pop up in the center of the city. As in "downtown".
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June 8th, 2012, 03:08 PM
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#6 | | Historian
Joined: May 2012 From: New York City Posts: 1,636 |
THE SKYSCRAPER MUSEUM NYC
Located in New York City, the world's first and foremost vertical metropolis, The Skyscraper Museum celebrates the City's rich architectural heritage and examines the historical forces and individuals that have shaped its successive skylines. Through exhibitions, programs and publications, the Museum explores tall buildings as objects of design, products of technology, sites of construction, investments in real estate, and places of work and residence. The Skyscraper Museum: MANHATTAN TIMEFORMATIONS | | |
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June 8th, 2012, 03:56 PM
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Joined: Mar 2008 From: On a mountain top in Costa Rica. yea...I win!! Posts: 10,945 |
The invention of the Bessemer process made steel cheap enough to produce on an industrial scale. It was also strong enough to allow building vertically. Cities no longer needed to spread outward but now had material that allowed growing upward. A perfect metaphor for a country with aspirations, a country that reached for the stars and grasped the moon.
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June 8th, 2012, 04:05 PM
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#8 | | Historian
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,070 |
The problem is that the ONLY industrialized country to build skyscrapers before the 1950's was the US.
Well, one point is that in Europe, most large cities had it's centers already maxed out by the 1890's, when skyscrapers became a possibility. So in fact, there was less demand for new buildings, including skyscrapers.
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June 8th, 2012, 04:07 PM
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#9 | | Historian
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,070 |
The 1930's skycrapers also looked much better than the new deformed ones: | | |
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June 8th, 2012, 04:09 PM
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#10 | | Rabbit of Wormhole
Joined: Mar 2012 From: In the bag of ecstatic squirt Posts: 7,877 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rongo The basic answer is that land values in the big cities are sky high (no pun intended). Skyscrapers are a way to take fullest advantage of the price the developer paid for the land. | I think so, besides the fact that it is an expression of wealth and power.
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