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Old July 9th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #1

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McKinley and Garfield


Why are these men often forgotten? Not so sure about Garfield but it seems McKinley did some innovative and revolutionary things like having his inauguration recorded and riding in a car. But both were assassinated and it seems at the least they would be remembered for that but most people don't eve know go they were. Your thoughts?
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Regarding Garfield, I recently read "Destiny of the Republic." [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Destiny-Republic-Madness-Medicine-President/dp/0307939650"]Amazon.com: Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine and the Murder of a President (9780307939654): Candice Millard, Paul Michael: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YnWbd9JML.@@AMEPARAM@@51YnWbd9JML[/ame]

I was pretty impressed with the man. I was especially struck by the nature of his campaign when compared to the presidential campaigns of today.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 11:05 PM   #3

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I know nothing of Garfield and have been looking for a book on him. Thank you. Does this one dele into the death as weell
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It does!
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Well, they're remembered in Ohio. Outside of that, I don't know why either of them would be particularly remembered for anything special other than they were assassinated. Garfield's Presidency only lasted 200 days, one-third of which he was incapacitated from governing. He might have had some real potential had he lived, but unfortunately he didn't. McKinley on the other hand did manage to go 5 years before being shot, but he was basically a puppet of the Republican political/industrial machine. His most memorable "achievement" was declaring war on Spain - a war that he really didn't want in the first place.
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Mckinley also served in the civil war didnt he? I just dont see why theyre so forgotten when they are 2 members of a group of 4 men
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Mckinley also served in the civil war didnt he? I just dont see why theyre so forgotten when they are 2 members of a group of 4 men
Yes, I believe he was the last President to have served in the CW. There's a monument to him at Antietam:

Hughes Granite & Marble Company - McKinley Monument

Garfield, of course, was also a CW hero. He has a very impressive tomb here in Cleveland:

Click the image to open in full size.

As little name recognition as they both have, I would suspect they'd have much less if they hadn't been assassinated (unless, of course, Garfield had survived to do great things).
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Benjamin Harrison was also a Civil war vet
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Although I think of Chester Arthur, who served most of Garfield's term, as one of the most unjustifiably forgotten men in history, I've never thought of Garfield or McKinley in that light. My grandmother on my dad's side talked about McKinley and Bryan all the time (she favored Bryan). Among other things, she used to think his assassin "sounded like a sneeze." So I've never forgotten Leon Czolgosz. McKinley was important as was his democratic opponent as well as his vice president. So it's hard for me to think of him an an unknown.

Garfield served less than a year of his term. I can understand that people know little of him. Nevertheless, when I was in school several of Arthur's achievements were credited to "the Garfield administration." No wonder Arthur is forgotten.

Unlike John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald, Charles Guiteau and Leon Czolgosz are forgottem men. <shrug> Like John Hinckley is remembered and Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola are forgotten. Why? <shrug>
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Not sure who the last guys are.

What do you mean sounded like a sneeze?

and perhaps because the other two assassins served trial?
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