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View Poll Results: Native North Americans more successful against the whites
Apache 14 23.33%
Blackfoot 1 1.67%
Cherokee 6 10.00%
Cheyenne 0 0%
Comanche 16 26.67%
Kiowa 1 1.67%
Delaware 0 0%
Mohawk 3 5.00%
Mohican 0 0%
Natchez 0 0%
Navajos 2 3.33%
Nez Perce 1 1.67%
Pawnee 2 3.33%
Pawnee 1 1.67%
Sioux 19 31.67%
Ute 0 0%
Other 9 15.00%
None 4 6.67%
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Old December 29th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #51

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Imo, the Seminoles, especially under the leadership of Osceola.
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Imo, the Seminoles, especially under the leadership of Osceola.
Seminole is my choice too if I had to choose.
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Seminole is my choice too if I had to choose.
I hope someone corrects me on this if I'm wrong, but I think that the Seminoles were responsible for the the only death of an American general fighting against Indian tribes.
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I hope someone corrects me on this if I'm wrong, but I think that the Seminoles were responsible for the the only death of an American general fighting against Indian tribes.
Although the Seminoles fought the U.S. Army several times over 40 years, I don't know of a general who died fighting the Seminoles.

Maybe you're thinking of Gen George Armstrong Custer? (but that's not the Seminoles).
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Although the Seminoles fought the U.S. Army several times over 40 years, I don't know of a general who died fighting the Seminoles.

Maybe you're thinking of Gen George Armstrong Custer? (but that's not the Seminoles).
I checked it up, thanks. It was Edward Canby. It was during the Modoc war where he was killed though, so I was mistaken there. I stand by my pick of the Seminoles though, considering the effort and money as well as difficulty in defeating them.
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I voted for the Comanches. One of the few tribes (other than the Iroquois) to actually greatly expand their power and influence after initial European contact. They actually managed to expand into and depopulate parts of northern Mexico, through raids for captives and livestock which made thousands of others flee further south.

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I checked it up, thanks. It was Edward Canby. It was during the Modoc war where he was killed though, so I was mistaken there. I stand by my pick of the Seminoles though, considering the effort and money as well as difficulty in defeating them.
Canby was killed during peace negotiations, not combat, alng with others, and Modoc were hanged for that.

Custer was a colonel, but had been a brevet general in the Civil War.
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You don't have a single Northeastern Algonquian tribe??

The Wabanaki played a CRITICAL role in inhibiting the settlement of Englishmen in Maine/NH. They were also great allies in all of the colonial wars.

Furthermore, no mention of the coalition established by Metacom/King Philip??? That was the bloodiest war, by percentage, in the history of the people in what would become the United States. King Philip and his coalition of Southern New England native tribes inflicted heavy casualties, destroye entire owns, demoralized and came fairly close to eradicating the Puritans...
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You don't have a single Northeastern Algonquian tribe??

The Wabanaki played a CRITICAL role in inhibiting the settlement of Englishmen in Maine/NH. They were also great allies in all of the colonial wars.

Furthermore, no mention of the coalition established by Metacom/King Philip??? That was the bloodiest war, by percentage, in the history of the people in what would become the United States. King Philip and his coalition of Southern New England native tribes inflicted heavy casualties, destroye entire owns, demoralized and came fairly close to eradicating the Puritans...
The Powhatan Confederacy killed 1/4 of the white population of Virginia in 1622. The Pueblo Revolt of 1680 forced the Spanish out of New Mexico for many years. By the time there was a US, the Indians were at more of a disadvantage.
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Canby was killed during peace negotiations, not combat, alng with others, and Modoc were hanged for that.

Custer was a colonel, but had been a brevet general in the Civil War.
Fair enough, but the peace negotiations were just an attempt to get close to Canby, so it stlil counts, imo.
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