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Old August 17th, 2012, 08:59 AM   #1
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Facial reconstruction of ancient Native American (Mississipian)


These are facial Reconstruction of people from Mississipian culture long before 1000 years any European ever step foot in United States. For those of you who don't know Mississippian is, it is an culture situated in the Southeast United States.
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The source for those pictures is in this link.

Frontiers of Anthropology: The Last Word on Mayans and Mississippians

It amazes me just how similar their look is with the Ainu and Jomon.

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Oh dear god, please, not another one of those annoying "Mayans in Georgia" stories!
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Mayans in Georgia? who would think something like to begin with besides Georgia is like in the centre of the world. You must be thinking why those reconstruction don't look like Eskimo? let me tell you why, what you're seeing happens to be proto-mongoloid people.

They may not look like it but they are genetically the closest with East Asians/Siberians, their DNA and Haplogroup are similar to Mongoloids, the only difference is East Asian went through the ice age.

There resemblance with ancient Jomon and Ainu is very strong

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Genetic link between Asians and native Americans: evidence from HLA genes and haplotypes.

We have been studying polymorphisms of HLA class I and II genes in East Asians including Buryat in Siberia, Mongolian, Han Chinese, Man Chinese, Korean Chinese, South Korean, and Taiwan indigenous populations in collaboration with many Asian scientists. Regional populations in Japan, Hondo-Japanese, Ryukyuan, and Ainu, were also studied. HLA-A, -B, and -DRB1 gene frequencies were subjected to the correspondence analysis and calculation of DA distances. The correspondence analysis demonstrated several major clusters of human populations in the world. "Mongoloid" populations were highly diversified, in which several clusters such as Northeast Asians, Southeast Asians, Oceanians, and Native Americans were observed. Interestingly, an indigenous population in North Japan, Ainu, was placed relatively close to Native Americans in the correspondence analysis. Distribution of particular HLA-A, -B, -DRB1 alleles and haplotypes was also analyzed in relation to migration and dispersal routes of ancestral populations. A number of alleles and haplotypes showed characteristic patterns of regional distribution. For example, B39-HR5-DQ7 (B*3901-DRB1*1406-DQB1*0301) was shared by Ainu and Native Americans. A24-Cw8-B48 was commonly observed in Taiwan indigenous populations, Maori in New Zealand, Orochon in Northeast China, Inuit, and Tlingit. These findings further support the genetic link between East Asians and Native Americans. We have proposed that various ancestral populations in East Asia, marked by different HLA haplotypes, had migrated and dispersed through multiple routes. Moreover, relatively small genetic distances and the sharing of several HLA haplotypes between Ainu and Native Americans suggest that these populations are descendants of some Upper Paleolithic populations of East Asia.

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I was referring to the article you linked to in the OP, it was one of those pseudoarchaeology nuts who just went on a massive rant about how the mainstream (or "lamestream" as I'm sure their type calls it) is always wrong and there's a conspiracy out to stop the truth and all that garbage.

As for the genetic stuff that you're actually discussing, isn't it kinda already the accepted truth that most ancestors of Native-Americans crossed over from the Bering Land Bridge? It doesn't seem like it's be surprising (or even news at all) to say that Native-Americans are related to Asians.
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I was referring to the article you linked to in the OP, it was one of those pseudoarchaeology nuts who just went on a massive rant about how the mainstream (or "lamestream" as I'm sure their type calls it) is always wrong and there's a conspiracy out to stop the truth and all that garbage.

As for the genetic stuff that you're actually discussing, isn't it kinda already the accepted truth that most ancestors of Native-Americans crossed over from the Bering Land Bridge? It doesn't seem like it's be surprising (or even news at all) to say that Native-Americans are related to Asians.
Yes, but the Ainu and Jomon happens to be related with Asian genetically aswell. Here is the map of Ainu who historically inhabited Japan and Siberia, it wouldn't be surprised if they crossed over the Bering Land Bridge.

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Kenniwick Man is particularly famous for being "Ainoid" or however you say it in appearance. I think it was Washington where his skull was found. Unfortunately there is a massive controversy over it because when it was first found a scientist made the innocent mistake of saying it had a "Caucasoid appearance" (not surprising because Ainu are famous for looking different from their neighbors and vaguely similar to westerners) and the media and stupid people all over ran with that, assuming he was white and that this was proof whites made it to America first, and that the Native-Americans were trying to hide the truth, and all sorts of even worse things.
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