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Old November 7th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #71

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Was this law the reason for Austin's trip to Mexico and subsequent imprisonment?
Yes.
Texans met at San Felipe de Austin for the Convention of 1832 and 1833 to decide what to do about the Law of April.
Austin wasn't fully for the idea of meeting, especially since it was an all white meeting (about 55 delegates)
and no Hispanics were present. Sam Houston was at the 1833 meeting.
Mr. Austin felt it would have been better if the leading Mexicans of the area
presented the grievances, not Anglos.

He was chosen to travel to Mexico City and present the grievances to Santa Anna himself. He did, but
it took months of waiting and became frustrated at the lack of speed in Mexican politics.
While in Mexico City, waiting, a cholera epidemic struck the city, causing more delays. In a moment
of frustration, he wrote a letter to be sent back to Texas stating "that you will not lose one
moment in sending a communication to all
the Ayuntamientos of Texas, urging them unite in a measure to organize
a local government independent of Coahuila, even though the general
government withholds its consent."


Here comes the "oops" moment. After finally getting a meeting with
Santa Anna, he agreed on many of Austin's demands except for statehood.
But the letter had been sent and the ayuntamiento in San Antonio then sent
the letter south to Saltillo where he was arrested when he stopped there on
his way back home by commandant general Pedro Lemus. Three weeks later under
a seven man traveling guard, Austin was in jail cell No. 15 in the Inquisition prison.
The rest is History.
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More or less like in any at least reasonably affluent nation all around this Planet, yup.

On the other hand, progressively aged affluent societies regularly tend to require at least some help from migrant workforce.

The average woman (illegal migrants duly included) of the EU has some 1.6 children; 1.74 in Denmark.

As you are probably well aware, an average of 2.1 children born per woman would be required just for demographic stability (i.e. no natural population decline)


As previously stated, it has never been so easy; right?
I don't care if we are 6, 5 or 4 millions in DK as long as the ones here are productive. To me it is not a goal to be more people. Most of ------ countries has that problem - look at Arab families. 10-12 children and they are not able to afford collage education to their families.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #73

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Yes.
, Austin was in jail cell No. 15 in the Inquisition prison.
The rest is History.
They have the jail cell all set up at the state historical museum I recently visited. cool exhibit.

Unfortunate timing on that letter. but, you know what they say, in life, timing is everything. And the rest is, well, as you said before, history. Austin had to do a little time in the hole but my Gr Gr Grandpa got to immigrate to Quihi in the Castro Colony. Died a few months later, great story, I think I might write it sometime for the blog.
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Most of shitty countries has that problem - look at Arab families. 10-12 children and they are not able to afford collage education to their families.
hmmm, just wondering if you realize the term 'shitty countries' isn't really a place many of us take our posts to. Particularly when followed by Identifying said countries with a racial reference?
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Or collages. We do not speak of **shudder** collages here!
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Or collages. We do not speak of **shudder** collages here!
Sorry my misspelling - try to speak Danish, English, German or French plus your mother-language

Oh, I forgot that people in NA only do speak English, Spanish or French - and most of them only one of them.........
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They have the jail cell all set up at the state historical museum I recently visited. cool exhibit.
US History threads always wilt on the vine unless people can fight
like children, cut and paste, about the Civil War. I didn't mean for this to be turned
into a Texas History thread. Hope it gets back on topic.
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US History threads always wilt on the vine unless people can fight
like children, cut and paste, about the Civil War. I didn't mean for this to be turned
into a Texas History thread. Hope it gets back on topic.
seems like it sort of morphed there from discussion on the historical boundaries of TX and who had a 'right' to own and govern the boundaries we call, Texas.

Which, if I can get that far, impacts the beginnings of the War with Mexico and whether it was 'unjust'.
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seems like it sort of morphed there from discussion on the historical boundaries of TX and who had a 'right' to own and govern the boundaries we call, Texas.

Which, if I can get that far, impacts the beginnings of the War with Mexico and whether it was 'unjust'.
Yep indeedy.
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Hmm, I like your reasoning. Any excuse for me to talk Texas History.
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