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Old November 7th, 2012, 04:40 AM   #21

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Didn't think we ever owned Alaska, although we might have "invaded" it at some point in our history, judging by another thread on this forum.
Russia offered Alaska to Britain in 1859 as they were skint after the Crimean war. Palmerston turned them down flat. The rationale was that the Russians were afraid that in a new war with British they would lose the territory anyway, so they may as well get a price for it. They offered it again at the same time as they offered it to the US, possibly to drive the price up, again they were turned down.
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The Peace Treaty of 1783 was so favorable to the newly independent thirteen colonies with respect to the boundary with the remaining British North American colonies that the Earl of Shelburne, who directed the negotiations, could be considered one of the founding fathers of the US. Well perhaps that is a bit of exaggeration, but if the area now encompassing the states of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin had eventually become part of Canada that would have changed things more than a little.
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Alaska was never ours, and as for Hawaii, It was seized in 1843 by the commander of a British warship, but given back to the Hawaii ruling family just 6 months later by the senior commander of the officer who had seized it, stating something along the lines of "Sorry about that, he got a bit carried away with himself".

Strangely Hawaii still carries the Union Jack on their state flag, they must have liked us.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 09:12 AM   #24

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Strangely Hawaii still carries the Union Jack on their state flag, they must have liked us.
They did indeed, even though they had Captain Cook for dinner--literally.
Hawaii is a real blot on Britain's reputation, when King Kalākaua and later Queen Liliʻuokalani appealed to Britain for help against an American take over they were ignored.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 01:36 PM   #25

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Such was Britain's lack of interest in Canada, at least one Canadian historian has claimed that if it wasn't for the, War Of 1812, Britain might have allowed the USA to purchase Canada at a later date, but the war ensured that the colonist's in Canada developed their own national identity and that it stayed British.
Sad but true Canada meant very little to Britain. I do not know if they would have sold us at least I hope not. I do not want my country to be part of the US. Britain might have fought harder if Tecumseh had succeeded in his plan.
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Sad but true Canada meant very little to Britain. I do not know if they would have sold us at least I hope not. I do not want my country to be part of the US. Britain might have fought harder if Tecumseh had succeeded in his plan.
Kind of an interesting question in Redcoat's post and the reply. Did Britain ever sell any of its territory?

The USA purchased territory a number of times but I always thought of the British as being too rich to need the money badly enough to sell territory. But, have they?
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Guess everyone here is well aware that there were actually first & foremost the Canadians themselves who couldn't have fought any harder for Canada, right
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Such was Britain's lack of interest in Canada, at least one Canadian historian has claimed that if it wasn't for the, War Of 1812, Britain might have allowed the USA to purchase Canada at a later date, but the war ensured that the colonist's in Canada developed their own national identity and that it stayed British.
I've heard speculation similar to this but instead of the US buying Canada it's speculated that the Canadians would have freely chosen to join the US. I've never seen any convincing evidence to support this speculation at least as far as I'm concerned.
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Wars are expensive, especially ones that are across the ocean. I think Britain was getting war-weary.
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I've heard speculation similar to this but instead of the US buying Canada it's speculated that the Canadians would have freely chosen to join the US. I've never seen any convincing evidence to support this speculation at least as far as I'm concerned.
In 1812 the USA was convinced that taking Canada would be a 'cake walk' with their armies welcomed with open arms to be liberated from 'British oppression'

They weren't
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