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Old November 10th, 2012, 03:42 PM   #51

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Originally Posted by USMC View Post
We really need some Canadians to chime in here, but I remember Alberta being pretty sparse.
Allow me to give some info.

The first map is Canada just after its independence in 1867, and the second map is Canada in 1870 after the purchase of Ruperts Land. Among the territories purchased the only thing the Europeans would call a city, was the red river settlement (Manitoba). So the rest was underdeveloped Native land.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #52
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Yeh, France chose to give Britain Canada rather than 2 islands that were valuable for sugar production with slave labor. Probably explains why the US thought it could take Canada in 1812 and why Britain didn't try harder for a more decisive win of that war. European powers just weren't that interested in Canada.
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Originally Posted by Kevinmeath View Post
In 1812 the USA was convinced that taking Canada would be a 'cake walk' with their armies welcomed with open arms to be liberated from 'British oppression'

They weren't
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Old March 9th, 2013, 01:28 AM   #54

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I just got through reading the Mexican American war thread and it brought back a question I always wondered. Why didn't Britain do more to extend their Canadian territories? Just one example I pulled off of Wikipedia:

"During the American Revolutionary War, Detroit was an important British supply center. Most of the inhabitants were French-Canadians or Native Americans, many of whom had been allied with the French. Because of imprecise cartography and unclear language defining the boundaries in the 1783 Treaty of Paris, the British retained control of Detroit and Michigan after the American Revolution. When Quebec split into Lower and Upper Canada in 1790, Michigan was part of Kent County, Upper Canada. It held its first democratic elections in August 1792 to send delegates to the new provincial parliament at Newark (now Niagara-on-the-Lake)."

So what I ask is why would they give up a territory like Michigan to their enemies? Furthermore, their negotiations later in in the 1800's gave the US what is now Oregon and Washington state in exchange for what is now British Columbia. Today Oregon and Washington have more than double the population of British Columbia, and most of the population of British Columbia hugs the US border and the area around Vancouver. It seems like Britain gave the US the better part of these deals. This seems strange because of the superiority of contemporary British power in comparison to the contemporary US. Why did they do this? What are your thoughts?
Firstly I'd say our attentions were elsewhere, secondly there was so much territory we hardly needed any more
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