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Old November 9th, 2012, 12:14 PM   #1

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The state of Jefferson


I have a good friend on another board whom I have tried to persuade to come over here...she ain't havin' any of it. Alrighty then, fair enough. She's intensely loyal...to everything she's involved in, including her websites. She hung on with the History Channel site until the bitter end when it completely dissolved. Only then did she join the other place.

She's in her '50's, a full-blooded Native American (she actually prefers the term 'Indian') who is fascinating to listen to. I've never met her, but I've read tons of her posts on the other site, the one I no longer post on. I say 'listen' because when I read I'm actually listening to the writer, and Diane's writing is spectacular, full of imagery and information. She's the most knowledgable person, on almost everything having to do with American history that I've ever had the pleasure of 'listening to.' She can tell you almost anything about every Native American tribe in existence, or that has existed in the US...well, in the whole of North America really. Much of her knowledge has been handed down to her by her family, and for many years she has done her own extensive research. Without a doubt she is an authority on the subject, but she would never admit to that, her natural humility and sense of humor would not allow it.

Anyway, she lives on a reservation (she calls it 'the rez') in the state of Jefferson (actually in northern California). She has told many stories of life in that area, all very colorful and interesting. She's got two grown sons, one of whom is a firefighter working for the US Forest Service.

Below are some photos taken in Jefferson, and a website where you can get more info on the history of the region, should you be so inclined.

Maybe someday Diane will join us, I hope so.


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Map of Oregon and northern California showing counties proposed for inclusion in the
state_of_Jefferson state_of_Jefferson
in 1941.made this with Illustrator, the map vector outlines were extracted from public domain National Atlas congressional district maps.










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Jefferson - The 51st State - Northern California / Southern Oregon - A State of Mind





http://www.jeffersonbackroads.com/

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Old November 9th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #2

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This little chapter never gets much attention.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 12:37 PM   #3

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First time I ever heard of it. Excellent work!
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This little chapter never gets much attention.
Exactly right. I'd never heard of it before Diane joined the other site. On the member profile section there's a place for folks to indicate where they live, just as on most talk sites, and she listed this: "State of Jefferson"...with no further explanation. This went on for a couple of years at least, with nobody to my knowledge asking her for an explanation, unless of course they sent her a private message asking her about it. She never posted anything on the boards concerning her location. Finally I sent her a pm asking her about it...so she told me. And then I did some googling on my own. It seems to be a pretty well-kept secret, at least outside of the Pacific west, though I doubt that anybody's actually trying to keep it a secret. Just doesn't ever make the news as far as I can tell.
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First time I ever heard of it. Excellent work!
This 'state' was brought up in another thread here when a member asked
a question about it, I wrote what I knew about it and of course, members
just sped past it.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 09:18 PM   #6

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If it weren't for pearl Harbor, they would have become a state. They were supposed to go before Congress on December 9th 1941, but the Japanese struck on the 7th.

Maybe it could be brought in as a blue state to balance red Puerto Rico?
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No soap. The west coast is red.
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Having spent a fair amount of time driving through this area on my various trips between California and Washington State I can agree that the very northern part of the state is very different from the rest of it. Might be a good idea actually.
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It would be a shame for California to lose Mt. Shasta though...
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No soap. The west coast is red.
Not on 6 Nov. is wasn't. All three states went blue.

EDIT: They were all blue in 2008 as well.
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