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Old November 19th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #41
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As a southern non white the term "Redneck" is used by many of my white fellow southern citizens as a term of pride. It seems like the term N****r/N****a with blacks, Redneck has taken on a duel meaning. It seems to have originated as a term for poor white souther whites and their "Backward" culture compared to the whites who lived in cities. For example as someone else noted Rednecks are stereotyped as working farms, Fishing and Hunting, fixing their own cars/providing for themselves etc. I personally know many self-described Rednecks. Also whats with the "Liberal" thing, you do realize one could be a Liberal politically speaking and a Redneck..Its VERY Rare but it is possible.

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Another historical source for the word comes from almost a century ago. Unionized miners were called rednecks because of red bandanas that they wore. At this point the word did not refer to white people only.

Today the word has evolved into a complicated word in someways. Southerners like me do not consider ourselves rednecks unless someone from another region is insulting Southerners as being rednecks. Liberals use the word to mean all sorts of nasty things, like racist, stupid and poor. It doesn't matter that they are usually wrong on all three counts, they just don't like people who do not drink the same liberal cool aid as themselves.

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I think it is simply because unlike blacks in relationship to N****r/N****a, Rednecks never suffered the amount of discrimination and social segregation blacks did with the term used to degrade them. For example there was no Jim Crow sign saying "Blacks only, no Rednecks allowed". Also N****r and Negro was used to paint blacks as subhuman and inferior in serious "scientific" journals. Its no about being "Proud" its about the history behind the word.

That said I would'nt dare walk up to some random (Southern) white person and call them a Redneck, its disrespectful and Im sure many Southern Whites would not want to be called "Redneck" by professionals and others esp. if they did'nt know them. Like the term N****r/N****a Redneck has a duel meaning and is usually used by someone you know.

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It's basically a racist and classist term. Rednecks are too confident in themselves to make an issue out of it. Unlike the 'N' word it seems perfectly fine, perhaps encouraged even, to use publicly.

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Old November 19th, 2012, 01:57 AM   #43

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Guys, you cannot post the N word here.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 02:12 AM   #45
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My bad, I edited my posts. Just and FYI Im black, not that it matters.

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Yeah, like the N word, many southern rural people have claimed it as a source of pride, but you still have to be careful how and to whom you use it with.
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Negro is a race of people originally from Africa. Anything wrong with that?
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Old November 19th, 2012, 07:47 AM   #49

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I think it is simply because unlike blacks in relationship to N****r/N****a, Rednecks never suffered the amount of discrimination and social segregation blacks did with the term used to degrade them. For example there was no Jim Crow sign saying "Blacks only, no Rednecks allowed". Also N****r and Negro was used to paint blacks as subhuman and inferior in serious "scientific" journals. Its no about being "Proud" its about the history behind the word.

That said I would'nt dare walk up to some random (Southern) white person and call them a Redneck, its disrespectful and Im sure many Southern Whites would not want to be called "Redneck" by professionals and others esp. if they did'nt know them. Like the term N****r/N****a Redneck has a duel meaning and is usually used by someone you know.
People find ways to justify their use of the bigoted term 'redneck'. Somehow the idea that one bigoted term is ok and one not, simply because the one group has suffered more open bigotry in the past, doesn't really wash.

I agree with you, I wouldn't call a person a redneck either, unless they were a friend and used the term themselves, in a reverse casual way such as black people do with the N word, among themselves.

Redneck is the only bigoted term I hear used openly in the media, and often with humorous, patronizing and even derogatory intent.
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I agree with you I don't think either term should be used openly, but pop culture always trumps political correctness. The fact is both Rednecks and the N-word have been "rebranded" by various entertainers to the fact that people take pride in being a redneck or being a n***a. Believe it or not but the culture/stereotypes associated with being a redneck are becoming quite popular esp. here in the South, you even see Upper Class Whites embracing some of the culture associated with it. I guess its similar to how Upper Middle class Blacks embracing the "Hiphop" culture of poor urban blacks.

Maybe it has to do with the fact that despite their low class status, Poor White Southerners aka Rednecks, are still at the end of the day "White" and are part of the Majority and most Dominant American racial class. I remember in my Freshman level American History class, the Text book I had to buy for the class labeled Poor Whites during the Colonial Era "White Trash"(I remember thinking how degrading that was). Which was so offensive even the Professor had to dismiss it, I mean there really was no reason to use that term.



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People find ways to justify their use of the bigoted term 'redneck'. Somehow the idea that one bigoted term is ok and one not, simply because the one group has suffered more open bigotry in the past, doesn't really wash.

I agree with you, I wouldn't call a person a redneck either, unless they were a friend and used the term themselves, in a reverse casual way such as black people do with the N word, among themselves.

Redneck is the only bigoted term I hear used openly in the media, and often with humorous, patronizing and even derogatory intent.
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