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Old December 14th, 2012, 03:55 PM   #11

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It seems to me also that times have changed and politicians on the whole are way less accountable/honourable than they used to be.

Something that a politician would have resigned over a few decades ago, is now just a matter of a few headlines, a bit of clever PR, and then business as usual.

Am I just being cynical? Or maybe mistaken about the past?
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It seems to me also that times have changed and politicians on the whole are way less accountable/honourable than they used to be.

Something that a politician would have resigned over a few decades ago, is now just a matter of a few headlines, a bit of clever PR, and then business as usual.

Am I just being cynical? Or maybe mistaken about the past?
That is what I want to know Nero. I remember when Nixon "re-emerged" into the public eye much later in his life, and I felt that in some ways he had been persecuted for his ideas perhaps. I do not claim that he was innocent of the charges, but I wonder why I felt so much sympathy for him when he became a public figure again.
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Agreed. Watergate was one of the greatest constitutional crises of our nation's history.
Sorry Diddyriddick, I do have a follow up question. Did the constitutional crisis arise because of partisan politics by the haters of Nixon? Did his detractors make it a crisis for political reasons?
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It seems to me also that times have changed and politicians on the whole are way less accountable/honourable than they used to be.

Something that a politician would have resigned over a few decades ago, is now just a matter of a few headlines, a bit of clever PR, and then business as usual.

Am I just being cynical? Or maybe mistaken about the past?
Times haven't changed, just how the media reports, or chooses too.
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That is what I want to know Nero. I remember when Nixon "re-emerged" into the public eye much later in his life, and I felt that in some ways he had been persecuted for his ideas perhaps. I do not claim that he was innocent of the charges, but I wonder why I felt so much sympathy for him when he became a public figure again.
I don't know, probably because he was largely broken and powerless.
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I don't know, probably because he was largely broken and powerless.
The way I remember it, he was a sensation of sorts. All of the commentators that I agreed with really did rehabilitate Nixon's image in the press for a time. It brought a more recent contrast of his public image, and made me compare him to the president of that time, though I don't remember which president it was. I only know that I have suspicions that Nixon's demise was a political hit job in a sense by the other political party, in terms of blowing it out of proportion on a level that even an honest democrat should say, "yeah, that was wrong".
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The way I remember it, he was a sensation of sorts. All of the commentators that I agreed with really did rehabilitate Nixon's image in the press for a time. It brought a more recent contrast of his public image, and made me compare him to the president of that time, though I don't remember which president it was. I only know that I have suspicions that Nixon's demise was a political hit job in a sense by the other political party, in terms of blowing it out of proportion on a level that even an honest democrat should say, "yeah, that was wrong".
Well, i wouldn't dwell on the politics too much on that. I will say that the press and the Presidency seem to have developed an odd relationships compared to the rest. Kind of like abusive spouses. They beat the living crap out of one another one day and then on the next day their all smooches and hugs.
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Well, i wouldn't dwell on the politics too much on that. I will say that the press and the Presidency seem to have developed an odd relationships compared to the rest. Kind of like abusive spouses. They beat the living crap out of one another one day and then on the next day their all smooches and hugs.
Politics? I only say that because I wonder if the networks were actually cheerleaders for Nixon's demise?
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I do wonder if being a Republican was the main crime that Nixon committed? Is that possible?
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Okay, so next step. A crisis emerged because no president should ever be allowed to lie, or cover up anything. I wonder how other presidents rank on a list that would consist of presidents who covered up statistics or other things. I want to hear this.
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