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Old January 3rd, 2013, 04:28 PM   #1

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Why so little Muslim immigration for most of America's History?


Why is it that there was never a substantial amount of muslim immigration to the United States for most of the country's history?

Morocco was the first country to recognize the United States IIRC.

Is it a race thing? This couldn't have applied to Bosniaks, Albanians, Muslim Bulgarians and Greeks, Pomaks, or Turks.

Its not like there wasn't some sort of incentive to leave when Christian states started kicking the Ottomans out of the Balkans or when France and Italy took to north Africa.

The United States took in non-christian Jews, why is it that there never was that much Muslim immigration to the United States up until recently?
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 06:09 PM   #2

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Thats a very good question actually. I know that there was substantial emigration from the Middle East to South America in the last days of the Ottoman Empire (Latin American Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/spanish/spe...00/4294241.stm). But why was there no substantial emigration to the US? Maybe the weather and culture of South America was more like "back home"?
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 08:08 PM   #3

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Racism mostly.

Just to consider the Johnson-Reed Act which determined quotas by national origin, it controlled immigration from 1924 until the 1960's. Here are some of the quotas. That's only a "for instance." Prior to that, the quotas were set at no more than 3% of the number of Americans of any national origin listed on the 1910 census. That also allowed very few Asians, and most of those were Chinese.

Going back to the first half of the nineteenth century, and then the second half, there were different explanatory dynamics. But during the periods of highest immigration from abroad, the biggest dynamic was the national quota system.
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But during the periods of highest immigration from abroad, the biggest dynamic was the national quota system.
During the 40 years of the quota system, total immigration levels were relatively low, for obvious reasons.
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Racism mostly.
Why would that stop white muslims from immigrating?
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Why would that stop white muslims from immigrating?
Call it ethnocentrism instead of racism then. It was very hard for Asians to enter the country. There were very low quotas for Albanians, Bosnians, and Bulgarians, the main European countries that had significant Muslim populations.
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I would submit that Islam, the fastest growing religion in the world, really wasn't much interested in emmigrating until the radical Mullahs whipped up the frenzy against th West.

A theocracy seems to work that way doesn't it?
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I would submit that Islam, the fastest growing religion in the world, really wasn't much interested in emmigrating until the radical Mullahs whipped up the frenzy against th West.

A theocracy seems to work that way doesn't it?
Christian Bulgarians, Serbs, Greeks, and Russians treated the Muslims in their countries like crap when they started beating back the Ottomans. Why is that didn't come to the US then?

Again, it can't be racism. There's Bosniaks, Albanians, Pomaks, Gorani, Torbes, Muslim Bulgarians, Muslim Greeks, Circassians, Chechens, Berbers, Muslim, Abkhaz, Alawites, Turks, Azeris, and lots of other white muslim peoples in the caucasus.

There were plenty of muslims in Europe, so why didn't they ever immigrate? Was it just that the Ottoman Empire seemed like a better place to go to?
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There are tons of Bosnian Muslims where I live. Most of them came as refugees in the aftermath of the Yugoslav Wars in the 90s.
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There are tons of Bosnian Muslims where I live. Most of them came as refugees in the aftermath of the Yugoslav Wars in the 90s.
Yeah, but what I'm wondering is that why its only happening recently (last few decades) and why it didn't really happen before?
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