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Old March 3rd, 2013, 11:56 PM   #1
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I can't agree with the placement of Woodrow Wilson; he used WWI, which was hardly a threat to America, to illegally crack down on civil liberties* and legitimate political opposition, particularly socialists. There's something deeply and disgustingly hypocritical about getting reelected on a platform of keeping the US out of the war, and then promptly involving it in WWI. He was also a rabid segregationist, and actually RE-segregated parts of the federal government. I'm quite dubious about Andrew Jackson as well; other than resolving the Nullification Crisis, I don't know what he did that was so great; his killing of the National Bank helped cause a recession.


*I realize Lincoln did this too. Lincoln at least had the excuse he was dealing with a threat to the very survival of the nation on an unprecedented scale, though I still wouldn't personally approve of many of his actions regarding civil liberties during the war.
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I agree that the Top Five(And John Adams) are some of the best Presidents we had. I Think that Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and Dwight D. Eisenhower should all be on the list in my Opinion. And maybe JFK.

Here My List:
FDR
Lincoln
Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Theodore Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
Bill Clinton
Ronald Reagan
Dwight D. Eisenhower
John Adams
Harry S. Truman

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1.) Washington
2.) Lincoln
3.) FDR
4.) Polk
5.) Teddy Roosevelt
6.) IKE
7.) Reagan
8.) Wilson
9.) McKinley
10.) Bush Sr.
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It's the music for the Britannia expansion of Medieval Total War if I'm not mistaken...
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Top 5:

Lincoln
Washington
FDR
TR/LBJ
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My top ten...

10) Woodrow Wilson - A believer in Progressive Reform and man of high intellect, he backed bringing America out of isolation to try and preserve world peace. However, he falls to ten because of extensive overractions to percieved German and Communist threats within the US, tacit support for the KKK, and imperialist involvement in Latin America, as well as a niave understanding of European politics.

9) Andrew Jackson - The father of the modern Democratic Party, Jackson is here for supporting the move to expand voting rights in America. Prior to Jackson, only white property holders could vote. After Jackson, all white males could vote, this would lead to the continued expansion of voting rights in America, even after his death. However, he falls to nine because of his policies regarding Native Americans and his battles to annul the Bank of the US to give to political stoges and their own local pet projects.

8) LBJ - A firm supporter of Civil Rights and the father of the Great Society, which is still a major part of American policy today, LBJ made a very firm effort to directly benefit the poor in America and those that had been persecuted for years. However, his handling of Vietnam was extremely poor and derailed much of the Great Society legislation, which lead to Nixon, Ford, Reagan attacking at every opportunity to try and remove it entirely.

7) Harry S. Truman - FDR's successor, Truman's legacy as President is tied to the atomic bomb and the Cold War. But, Truman had to overcome many issues and was not also faced with foriegn policy issues. Truman was key to the establishment of the GI Bill to give returning WW2 veterans chances at transferring succesfully to civilian life, backed Civil Rights by desegregating the military, and supported efforts to curtail "pork spending" as "the buck stops here." However, his initial handling of the Cold War leaves something to be desired. He was heavily criticized for "surrendering" China and firing MacArthur, and probably unjustly so, but his blunt and confrontational interactions with Stalin probably contributed to many of the worst aspects that would keep America on edge for nearly 50 years.

6) John Adams - A firm supporter in strengthening America and building America up after the American Revolution, Adams, actually rightfully saw working more with Britain would do the best for working to improve America's trade... though he would continue Washington's overall policy of neutrality with regard to the wars between Britain and France. He falls to six because of paranoia over the possibility of Democratic-Republicans conspiring against him, and passing the Alien and Sedition Acts to act on them.

5) Thomas Jefferson - Adams' opposite in many ways, Jefferson is here because he represents a continuality in how American democracy and how the American system works. Despite being a Democratic-Republican and believing that the Constitution should be strictly interpreted, he would take a loose interpretation to buy the Louisiana territory from Napoleon and set the stage for westward expansion and the creation of a country that would go from sea to sea. And despite disagreeing with Adams on so many issues, he would patch things up with his old political rival in the end.

4) Teddy Roosevelt - America's original Progressive President, TR's presidency was built around a host of progressive reforms. Busting Trusts and monopolies and working to get better protection for American workers, as well as the establishment of the National Park System, setting asside acres of land for no other purpose than the preservation of nature.

3) George Washington - America's first President, while no great and nation altering legislation passed his desk, Washington still accomplished much. He kept America out of the growing violence of the French Revolution, recognizing the US was too weak to afford a major war with Britain, again. He created the President's Cabinet to help manage government affairs, which would pay off the Revolutionary war debts. And most importantly, he would set the precident for how a President should act.

2) Franklin D. Roosevelt - America's longest serving President, he managed to keep America's confidence through the worst of the Great Depression. While certain aspects of the New Deal can always be debated, the regulations placed on business to prevent ANOTHER Great Depression were effective, and many policies did create some jobs and provided other benefits to America. FDR was also a firm supporter of democracy and would fight with Isolationists to bring America out of it in the face of growing agression from tyrants like Hitler and Tojo who were rapidly dragging Europe and Asia into war and winning. The best quote on this from is from a speach that is portrayed in WWII in HD. However, issues with the internment of Japanese American citizens during WW2 brings him down to two.

And my top President...
1) Abraham Lincoln - The first Republican President, Lincoln faced the toughest conditions any President could face. The country split in half even before he took office. The country was divided over the issue of slavery, which contributed to the secession of Southern states. Many in his cabinet were rivals for the Republican nomination. There was the threat of Britain joining the Civil War as well...

And yet, Lincoln carried on. The Homestead Act was passed under his Presidency, which would further the "progress" in westward expansion in the coming years. But his greatest moments come with the Emancipation Proclaimation and the support for the 13th Ammendment, and two speaches. One is the Gettysburg Adress, promising a new birth of freedom and the preservation of the Union. The other is his second innaugural, promising malice toward none and essentially laying out the plan for reconstruction, which the sources I've seen would indicate that it might have gone better had Lincoln not been assassinated... though that is only speculation.
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I agree that the Top Five(And John Adams) are some of the best Presidents we had. I Think that Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and Dwight D. Eisenhower should all be on the list in my Opinion. And maybe JFK.

Here My List:
FDR
Lincoln
Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Theodore Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
Bill Clinton
Ronald Reagan
Dwight D. Eisenhower
John Adams
Harry S. Truman
Glad to see someone besides myself that liked both Reagan and Clinton. Not sure about putting either in the top five though.
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1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. John F. Kennedy
5. Ronald Reagan
6. Dwight D. Eisenhower
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John Adams
9. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
10. Harry S. Truman

*Anywhere from 7-10 can be interchangeable.
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