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Old April 17th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #21
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I would say that when it comes to all around intelligence, humanity, comprehension and understanding... Lincoln takes the prize by far.

Few presidents in such times of trial could have surrounded themselves with political enemies and detractors, as did Lincoln, and end up converting them into staunch supporters who saw the greatness in a man they initially despised and resented.


Erudite without being pedantic, spiritually learned without being overly religious, politic without being unduly swayed by public opinion, and very deep in his ability to reconcile his own beliefs with the needs of a future nation...

No other president faced the uncharted challenges Lincoln faced and navigated them so well as did he.

There are no slaves in his bed, no pathetic compromises of his vision with his practice.

No unholy alliances, nor secret agendas.


His humility made his terrific intellect into a humor that persuaded gently rather than forcibly.
He was the best of what this culture can engender in regards to compassion and kindness... raised to incandescence by a brilliant mind.

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Old April 17th, 2013, 01:48 PM   #22

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I can't believe nobody has mentioned Nixon yet.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 02:00 PM   #23
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Wilson, Jefferson, Taft, Carter and Clinton. Proving, I guess that there is no correlation between intelligence and Presidential greatness--or should I say inverse proportionality.
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You must not know many engineers....
I actually know quite a few, working in the metals business.

They're all rather intelligent people, although not always the most...clever sort.
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I knew an Iranian ex-journalist who was advisor to several presidents on Middle Eastern matters from Eisenhower until Clinton; he passed on around Bush I and always stayed abreast of matters. During one conversation he said that without question Richard Nixon was the most intelligent President he'd ever met/known before or since.

There's something about a man raised as a Quaker who made money in the Navy playing cards that one cannot deny.
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the reason i mention that TJ could of possibly been black cause adams describes him as


“son of a half-breed

Indian squaw and a Virginia mulatto

father
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Can anyone actually explain to me why they see Wilson as more intelligent than most presidents besides his deanship at princeton?
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the reason i mention that TJ could of possibly been black cause adams describes him as


“son of a half-breed

Indian squaw and a Virginia mulatto

father

That ridiculous line has never been proven as fact from contemporary
writings of the day (election) and certainly not stuck onto anything Adams said.
It is from a collection of folk tales and sayings called "The Jonny-Cake Papers"
which came out in the late 1870s.
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Can anyone actually explain to me why they see Wilson as more intelligent than most presidents besides his deanship at princeton?
He's the only President to have completed a doctoral degree, to my knowledge.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 07:02 PM   #30

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I also concur with others that Jefferson was very intelligent and shrewd. Sure, he made a miscalculation with the Embargo Act in his second term, but it was a gamble anyway. Madison was cerebral, too, but his role in the context of the presidency isn't quite as luminous as his integral work on the Constitution decades prior. John Quincy Adams was another intelligent man.
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