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View Poll Results: Who killed JFK ?
Oswald alone 29 59.18%
Oswald+one or more other shooters 6 12.24%
Mafia+FBI+CIA+LBJ+TexasTycoons (Oswald is the scapegoat) 14 28.57%
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 11:12 AM   #31
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that is what was initially thought but accurate reconstructions have shown that the bullet travelled a relatively straight course and, having passed through mostly soft tissue (neck, chest, wrist , thigh), would not have been distorted much.

Magic bullet theory.
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Single shot theory, showing accurate layout of car and placement of passengers.
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Please look the Zapruder film. You see K hit in the middle, and Connolly hit in the right side...
How could it be possible since Oswald is supposed to shot from the right ?
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Please look the Zapruder film. You see K hit in the middle, and Connolly hit in the right side...
How could it be possible since Oswald is supposed to shot from the right ?
It seems consistent with a shot from above and slightly to the right to me.
Remember that Kennedy is leaning against the side of the car and Connally is turned to his right.
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It seems consistent with a shot from above and slightly to the right to me.
Remember that Kennedy is leaning against the side of the car and Connally is turned to his right.
Your drawings are inaccurate. Look Zapruder film. It is quite different compared to your drawings indeed.

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Your drawings are inaccurate. Look Zapruder film. It is quite different compared to your drawings indeed.
I have watched the Zapruder footage dozens of times, so far I haven't seen anything at variance with the illustrations I posted.
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Could you draw on zapruder film rather than on hand drawings ?
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Could you draw on zapruder film rather than on hand drawings ?
I can. My point is that these drawings (which are based on the autopsy results, Zapruder footage and security services witness testimony) support the evidence of the Zapruder footage that Kennedy was hit by two shots and that it was the first bullet that did the 'magic bullet' damage to K and C by travelling in a straight line, from above and to the right.

What is it about the Zapruder film that makes you think otherwise?
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I can. My point is that these drawings (which are based on the autopsy results, Zapruder footage and security services witness testimony) support the evidence of the Zapruder footage that Kennedy was hit by two shots and that it was the first bullet that did the 'magic bullet' damage to K and C by travelling in a straight line, from above and to the right.

What is it about the Zapruder film that makes you think otherwise?
If you can, please do it.

As i said, seeing the Z film it is obvious that it is not the same bullet that hit K and Conn.
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No, a shot from the back blew out the front of JFK's head. This is clear on the Zapruder film, but if that's too fast for you, here's a frame comparison at the moment JFK was hit.

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Yes, we have the film, and we have testimony:
Bobby Hargis was the motorcycle cop behind and to the left of the president.

"When I heard the first explosion, I knew it was a shot. I thought that Gov. Connally had been hit when I saw him turn toward the President with a real surprised look."

Splattered With Blood

"The President then looked like he was bent over or that he was leaning toward the Governor, talking to him."

"As the President straightened back up, Mrs. Kennedy turned toward him, and that was when he got hit in the side of his head, spinning it around. I was splattered with blood."

"Then I felt something hit me. It could have been concrete or something, but I thought at first I might have been hit."

"Then I saw the limousine stop, and I parked my motorcycle at the side of the road, got off and drew my gun."

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"Then this Secret Service agent (in the President's car) got his wits about him and they took off. The motorcycle officer on the right side of the car was Jim Chaney. He immediately went forward and announced to the chief that the President had been shot."

Do you see the limo stop in any of the Zapruder footage?
If not, where did the frames that would have captured it go?
Here is testimony from a trained observer vs. a film that went through the FBI and who knows who else before being released to us?

I guess I'm just saying that there is so much ambiguity to this and everyone can find "facts" that can support their opinion no matter what...I don't think we'll ever know.

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Do you see the limo stop in any of the Zapruder footage?

If not, where did the frames that would have captured it go?
Here is testimony from a trained observer vs. a film that went through the FBI and who knows who else before being released to us?

I guess I'm just saying that there is so much ambiguity to this and everyone can find "facts" that can support their opinion no matter what...I don't think we'll ever know.
Look [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrX8lsb2WTk]The Muchmore film suggests frames were removed from the Zapruder film - YouTube[/ame] from 1min55s.
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