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View Poll Results: Who killed JFK ?
Oswald alone 29 59.18%
Oswald+one or more other shooters 6 12.24%
Mafia+FBI+CIA+LBJ+TexasTycoons (Oswald is the scapegoat) 14 28.57%
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 12:52 PM   #61

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Ok im still waiting your draws on the Z film for the supposed route of the magic bullet please.
That's been repeatedly provided for you. You just willfully choose to ignore it.

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Who require magic bullet if not the official theory ?
One bullet which gave 7 wounds on 2 different ppl and through a seat... and is found INTACT ? And it's supposed to be true ? not magic ?
Then provide a viable alternative. Thus far you have criticized the single bullet theory, but offer nothing as an alternative other than I-don't-believe-it-therefore-it-can't-be-true.

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You need to watch JFK by Oliver Stone.
Um....No thank you.....We prefer actual history to lies and distortion.
JFK -- The Assassination Movie
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 01:14 PM   #62

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What if it was a conspiracy of people within these institutions with membership in another group that connects all Mafia/FBI/CIA, maybe like the Italian Propaganda Due?
Are you suggesting that Italian Freemasonry has been involved in the assassination of JFK?

Or that US freemasonry [Propaganda Due was a lodge of European Freemasonry] had involved in it?
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 06:47 PM   #63

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Please dont forget this one
That is the same bullet, the distortion is clearly visible in the other picture of it that I posted.

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So you really think this bullet passed through JFK chest, seat, Connally chest breaking his rib, then Connally wrist, then hiting his thigh... and look like this ?
Where are you getting your facts from? The bullet passed through Kennedy's neck, not his chest. It did not pass through Connally's seat (he was sitting in a fold away seat with a lower backrest).
A 6.5mm copper jacketed rifle bullet is easily capable of inflicting all these wounds at a range of less tham 90m.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 07:22 PM   #64

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Please dont forget this one

So you really think this bullet passed through JFK chest, seat, Connally chest breaking his rib, then Connally wrist, then hiting his thigh... and look like this ?

The Magic Bullet Part 2 from JFK | Anyclip
You got thi picture from wikipedia, which also has the other picture of the same bullet showing the distortion. Did you not realize they are pictures of the same bullet?
You are also wrong about what the bullet "passed through", which Davidius corrected.
Your arguments lose credibility when you play "Gotcha!" and get basic facts wrong. I suggest you broaden your research to include sites other than conspiracy sites. I also suggest you not use Hollywood entertainment as a source. Oliver Stone's movie is not a documentary. It is a movie, and nothing more.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 08:40 PM   #65

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why were the bodyguards that were riding on the rear bodyguard stations at either side rear bumpers called away just before the car turned into main street , i have seen footage of one of these bodyguards remonstrating with his boss who called him off , it is said to have been totally against procedure .
The Secret Service wanted to have two men riding on the back of the Presidential limo, but JFK refused. Instead, these two men had to ride on the running boards of the following car.


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Old February 3rd, 2014, 08:43 PM   #66

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You need to watch JFK by Oliver Stone.
Oliver Stone's JFK makes 300 look like a documentary. Here are a few of the ways Stone deliberately falsified events.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 08:51 PM   #67

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Who require magic bullet if not the official theory ?
One bullet which gave 7 wounds on 2 different ppl and through a seat... and is found INTACT ?
The bullet was not intact, as has already been proved. The bullet did not pass through a seat, no one has claimed that. The single bullet theory requires four wounds to two men.

Here's an example of two men wounded by a single bullet. Here's another example of two men wounded by a single bullet. Here's an example of two men killed with one bullet. Here's another example of two men killed by a single bullet. Here's an example of two men killed and a third wounded by a single bullet.
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Are you suggesting that Italian Freemasonry has been involved in the assassination of JFK?

Or that US freemasonry [Propaganda Due was a lodge of European Freemasonry] had involved in it?


No I'm just giving the possibility that a secret goup could be infiltrated in both agencies, and other government departments and connected to the mob. And maybe some of its members would be in high places And this group could coordinate the conspiracy using its members in different departments. The P2 was just an example of such a group and an American freemasonry lodge would be a possibility.

To make it clear I'm just trying to give some wings to the conspiracy theory. I'm not saying that it happened. After all what are the reasons to believe in a conspiracy theory:
- The fact that Oswald, the assassin, a man with ties to the Soviet Union, was himself murdered by a man with ties to the Mafia.
-The alleged involvement of the mob mentioned by Bill Bonanno.
- What is perceived as several acts of negligence both from the security of the President and in the investigations on the assassination.

Are there solid grounds to a conspiracy theory or just a lot of coincidences and people trying to jump to the spotlight? Beats me.

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Old February 4th, 2014, 12:38 AM   #69

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Of course Oswald never had a trial, but I see no reason to doubt that he did it. In fact, it's highly plausible.

Not to knock conspiracy theories, but most of the JFK conspiracy theories don't hold at all. The official story checks out very well. It really should be a shut case. Move on, you crazy bastards! Don't you have chemtrails to worry about?
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L'inamovible Hoover- le plus grand ripou d'Amrique (2007), you can find english subtitles on the internet.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2agPurqFJk]The Men Who Killed Kennedy: Part 1 The Coup d'Etat - YouTube[/ame][ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y]LBJ's Mistress Blows Whistle On JFK Assassination - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM]Former FBI Agent Reveals Who Really Killed JFK - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4CHetBzz3k]Jesse Ventura reveals who shot Kennedy... - YouTube[/ame]
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