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Francois le Francais January 28th, 2014 03:53 PM

Who killed JFK ?
 
1-Oswald alone
2-Oswald+one or more shooters
3-Mafia+FBI+CIA+LBJ+TexanTycoons+KKK(far-right movements pro-segregationists) ; Oswald was the scapegoat

I personally vote the 3. :D
Hoover, Giancana, Trafficante, LBJ, Dulles were united to liquidate the Kennedys. When the bro Bob will be candidate in 1968 they will shoot him too.

There are many things to say. Everyone got his own ideas. It's just a poll, so i dont pretend to clarify the case here. Just want to know the proportion of ppl who believe in the official version of the story.

Fiver January 28th, 2014 04:58 PM

Option 3 requires dozens of people, most of them with no ties to any of the listed organizations to be part of a plan to kill the President. It also requires six organizations that have never tried to assassinate any other US President to work together even though they have different agendas and would gain more by betraying each other. And the CIA was singularly inept at assassinations.

Von Ranke January 28th, 2014 05:05 PM

Everyone knows that Kennedy was rubbed out by the notorious hit man known as " The grassy knoll " who was bankrolled by Keyser Soze. On a more serious note there is an old Roman saying "cui bono" perhaps it might be worth looking at the guy who stated that the vice presidency is not worth "A bucket of warm piss"

http://www.looksfilm.tv/sites/defaul...?itok=LDcOkHRi

skizzerflake January 28th, 2014 06:16 PM

The conspiracies would suggest that almost everybody who was in Dallas that day EXCEPT Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK. Personally, I think it was John Lennon that did it.

botully January 29th, 2014 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Von Ranke (Post 1709389)
Everyone knows that Kennedy was rubbed out by the notorious hit man known as " The grassy knoll " who was bankrolled by Keyser Soze. On a more serious note there is an old Roman saying "cui bono" perhaps it might be worth looking at the guy who stated that the vice presidency is not worth "A bucket of warm piss"

http://www.looksfilm.tv/sites/defaul...?itok=LDcOkHRi

Why do you show a picture of Lyndon Johnson yet ask us to look at John Nance "Cactus Jack " Garner?
Garner was one of FDR's vice presidents 25 yrs previous.

RoryOMore January 29th, 2014 04:56 AM

Some earlier Kennedy assassination threads:

http://historum.com/american-history...nation-14.html

http://historum.com/american-history...g-kennedy.html

http://historum.com/american-history...t-kennedy.html

http://historum.com/history-films-te...g-kennedy.html

http://historum.com/american-history...ssination.html

http://historum.com/speculative-hist...l-kennedy.html

etc.

Napoleon I January 29th, 2014 05:00 AM

I think it was probably the CIA. During the Warren Commission's investigation, a professional sniper tested the weapon allegedly used to kill the President and found out that all shots fired would go five inches to the right due to an unfixable problem with the sights. There is also evidence for the CIA's involvement. After the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy remarked that he would "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds". That's a motive. I believe that David Sanchez Morales, a CIA agent, was the shooter. He had been photographed with Oswald in the days leading up to the shooting, and was recorded saying "He [Kennedy] was responsible for me having to watch the deaths of all those boys I trained [the Bay of Pigs agents]. We took care of that SOB, didn't we!", and "I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch, and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard [Robert Kennedy]".

jegates January 29th, 2014 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Napoleon I (Post 1709740)
I think it was probably the CIA. During the Warren Commission's investigation, a professional sniper tested the weapon allegedly used to kill the President and found out that all shots fired would go five inches to the right due to an unfixable problem with the sights.


Interesting....However, and as Oswald was a former Marine, and I am as well...we are trained to know our weapon and account for such things. Even the most basic, non-combat occupation Marine is trained to understand this knowledge in boot camp. They also continue this training (even non-combat occupations) every year while they are in.

If Oswald was the shooter and used that weapon, he would have known it and corrected his aim for it. And, he certainly would have trained with it before taking on such a task as killing the president. Simply because its a basic thing a Marine would do.

On a personal note...I visited the sight and went up to the window. The distance and and degree of difficulty is not as hard as I initially thought prior to physically going there. All the film footage makes it seem much farther away.

jegates January 29th, 2014 05:43 AM

I voted Oswald alone. I am not 100% sure of it, but mainly because I feel I could pull off those shots.

skizzerflake January 29th, 2014 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleon I (Post 1709740)
I think it was probably the CIA. During the Warren Commission's investigation, a professional sniper tested the weapon allegedly used to kill the President and found out that all shots fired would go five inches to the right due to an unfixable problem with the sights. There is also evidence for the CIA's involvement. After the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy remarked that he would "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds". That's a motive. I believe that David Sanchez Morales, a CIA agent, was the shooter. He had been photographed with Oswald in the days leading up to the shooting, and was recorded saying "He [Kennedy] was responsible for me having to watch the deaths of all those boys I trained [the Bay of Pigs agents]. We took care of that SOB, didn't we!", and "I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch, and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard [Robert Kennedy]".

The off center aim of the rifle is well known and predictable. Anybody who's spent a little time practicing would notice that and compensate.

As for the confession, unfortunately, there are many of those, especially among gangsters who considered it to be a resume item to claim that they shot JFK and others who did deathbed confessions. Too much noise, too little signal.


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