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Old June 6th, 2014, 08:33 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Salah View Post
I'm too lazy to say "Unitedstatesian", and "Usonian" sounds like a medical procedure or something.

I'm firmly of the opinion that people groups should be able to name themselves, and that name should be respected by those speaking in reference to them. It would seem that "American" has worked for the majority of 'us' for the past two+ centuries.
The only thing is that I've never had anyone ask me what nationality I am; they just ask "where are you from?" or "what country are you from?" "Unitedstatesian" or "Usonain" doesn't answer either of those questions.

"I'm from the U.S." seems to work just fine.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 09:02 AM   #22

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Originally Posted by Ancientgeezer View Post
Here's an historical angle. I recall that when Dan Quayle visited South America as his first official overseas duty, he remarked that he wished that he had learnt Latin at school so he could have "talked to those folks down there".
I wonder if quayle learned to tie his own shoes before high school? not the brightest crayon in the box..
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Old June 6th, 2014, 09:07 AM   #23

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Originally Posted by kbear View Post
I wonder if quayle learned to tie his own shoes before high school? not the brightest crayon in the box..
I'm not sure they speak English (of any flavor) in Indiana. This is based on having lived there for 14 years.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 09:07 AM   #24

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Originally Posted by OpanaPointer View Post
Canadians call us "Americans" a lot.

I read an item from 1813 that said "the United States" was a descriptive term, and "America" said which union of states a person was referring too.

However, that guy was English.
It's true though. As Salah pointed out, officially, Mexico is actually the United Mexican States and in history, there have been other nations with the term United States in the name (finally an actual historical reference): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...disambiguation)

United States of Belgium, a confederation that existed during the year 1790
Republic of the United States of Brazil (Portuguese: República dos Estados Unidos do Brasil) was the name of Brazil between 1889 and 1968
United States of Central America (informal name), more properly known as the United Provinces of Central America and the Federal Republic of Central America (through several name changes), a defunct 19th century federation of the nations of Central America
United States of Colombia, name held by Colombia between 1863 and 1886
United States of Indonesia, name of the country from 1949 to 1950
United States of the Ionian Islands, former British protectorate from 1815 to 1864
United State of Saurashtra, an Indian state between 1948 and 1956
United States of Stellaland, a short-lived political union of Goshen and Stellaland proper in southern Africa
United State of Travancore and Cochin, the name of the former Indian state of Travancore-Cochin between 1949 and 1950.
United States of Venezuela from 1864 to April 15, 1953
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Old June 6th, 2014, 09:09 AM   #25

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Agreed, and the reason I've long stopped worrying about it. When overseas I tend to say "I'm from the US."
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Old June 6th, 2014, 10:02 AM   #26

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Originally Posted by The Imperator View Post
Agree with the article completely.

The problem lies in what do we call a resident of the United States other than American? United Statesian?
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Old June 6th, 2014, 10:14 AM   #27
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You call people from the United States of Mexico Mexicans and people from the United States of America, Americans. It's pretty simple to understand.

The US is the only country with America in it's name so I don't understand how anyone can have any difficulty understanding why the US is called America, it's a shortened version of its full name.

It's pretty pointless anyway, the US isn't going to stop referring to itself as America just because there's a few disgruntled people irritated by it.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 10:32 AM   #28

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Originally Posted by Jax Historian View Post
That's an interesting nationality. Why don't you give it a try next April 15th when the U.S. government says you need to pay your federal income taxes. I'll be interested to hear how you make out.
hey that does not stop me from making payments to the US, or what should be more properly called the United States of Greater Texas.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 10:36 AM   #29

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I thought Texas was America's own private third world country?
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Old June 6th, 2014, 10:57 AM   #30

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Way back in ye olden days, the new continents discovered by Europeans on their voyages across the Atlantic, were referred to as America (after Amerigo Vespucci) or Columbia (after Christopher Columbus). These were often used interchangeably, even as late as the 19th Century.

The United States of America was the first of the European colonies to gain independence. In the late 18th Century there was only one independent country in what was then known as either America or Columbia. Everything west, north, and south of the United States of America either belonged to Native Americans or was claimed or colonized by various European nations. Canadians were British subjects, Louisianans were French subjects, and Central & South American peoples were subjects of the Spanish or Portuguese crowns. It wasn't arrogance to refer to the people who lived in the United States as 'Americans' when they were the only people at the time who had citizenship of a nation on that continent. Someone in Brazil was Portuguese, a person in New Orleans was French, a Canadian was British, and a Mexican was a Spaniard.

Also, American has a better ring to it than United Statesian, don't you think?

And why does no one ever complain about the Columbians calling themselves Columbian?
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