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Old December 9th, 2009, 11:48 AM   #1
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United States of South America? Ask a South American: Pinguin.

I can't answer threads outside the Pinguin Rooms.
I think I can give you the answer.

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Old December 9th, 2009, 12:06 PM   #2

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Please Pinguin give me your opinion on this subject!
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Old December 9th, 2009, 12:40 PM   #3
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Why are South Americans so touchy about the US being the one's called Americans?
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Old December 9th, 2009, 03:25 PM   #4
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Why are South Americans so touchy about the US being the one's called Americans?
We are Americans, too. Yankees seems a bit monopolistic with the name Americans. Remember that the name of your country is US of America; America is the name of the New World, and remember that America was originally the name of Brazil
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Please Pinguin give me your opinion on this subject!
Thanks Cicero!

There was a big difference between the British colonies and the Spanish. First, let's see the cases of Brazil and Canada. They ended as whole and unfractured nations simply because they were released from the control of the metropolis in a relative easy way. There wasn't massive wars, like the ones that existed in the U.S. and Spanish America.

Now compare the thirteen original colonies of the U.S. and see how close they were together. It is just common sense they will end unified.

In the Spanish colonies of America it wasn't the same case. Because the region was so widespread, the land was divided in several diferent Viceroyalties and Kingdoms, all relatively independent between them: Cuba, New Spain, New Granada, Peru, La Plata etc. Those colonies already have a sense of different identities, even before the Independence wars. Remember that the Spanish Colonies lasted 3 centuries! More than most the colonies that existed worldwide.

When Spain was invaded by Napoleon, the criollos went there to fight for the freedom of Spain. There they meet together and after started to plot the Independence of the colonies. The Independence wars that started in 1810 was several wars in parallel, directed by different groups.

After Independence, the Spanish colonies were devasted. And the situation had nothing to do with the colonies of that made the United States. Here it was a society directly extracted from the Middle Ages, with a feudalist system of land explotation, with large uneducated masses, with widespread poverty, alcoholism, etc. Even worst, after Independence, civil war and wars between states were relatively common.

At that time, it was very hard to unify the region.

Several attempts have been made to unify, at least South America, but for now it doesn't work. Countries are developing at different rythms and mentalities vary a lot. For instance, how could we unify Chile and Argentina when Chileans believe in no trade barriers at all, and Argentina still plays with protectionism? In any case, these countries collaborate quite a lot more than what it is known abroad.

Finally, with respect to the person that said he didn't know South America at all, but knew Africa... I would say simply that I can't deduce the lifestyle of Sweden studying Bangladesh
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Thanks for the explaination.

By the way, the Pinguin avatar is great. How did you come across him?

Best to you!
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It's probably because calling yourself a United Stateser doesn't really flow.
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Hey there Pinguin,

So many of your threads are closed this is the only one I thought might be appropriate to ask you about what's happening with the Mapuche at the moment. What is your impressions on what is happening there. Have you many views on the subject? Do you think the Bachelet government is handling the issue properly at all?
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Send me an email to oevega@yahoo.com, and I will answer you. I am with the Mapuches on that, anyways.
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Pinguin, I like how you have nothing good to say about this site over at AE, classy partner.
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