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pinguin December 26th, 2009 04:43 AM

On the colonization of the Caribbean
 
Read on the forum, a comment by Corrocamino:

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When the indigenous people of the Caribbean had been almost entirely wiped out by European-introduced diseases and the vicissitudes of slavery on some islands (e.g., Puerto Rico), the Spanish obtained new slaves among the Maya of the Yucatan Peninsula. My kids had friends in California who were nominally Puerto Rican by origin, but they (and their mother) were the spitting images of Maya I saw in Guatemala, as judged by stature and visages. So, just a note about slave labor, eradication and translocation of people.
The point is the following. The native population was not entirely wiped out at all. What dissapeared it was the Native culture, rather than the native genetics.

You can see studies on the genetics of Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and Cuba on the web, and you will confirm that the Tainos never went extinct.


Caribbeans with Indigenous phenotypes,

Batista
http://cubaweb.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/batista.jpg

Chayenne Puerto Rican singer
http://www.musica.pro/noticias/wp-co...s/chayanne.Jpg







http://www.taino-tribe.org/pr-taino-dna.htm

Genetics of Puerto Rico is highly Indigenous
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASVo6iqgSU&feature=related"]YouTube - Prof. Martinez Cruzado Lecture Part 1[/ame]






http://www.centrelink.org/amerinheritageday.jpg

Heidi XX December 26th, 2009 04:59 AM

Re: On the colonization of the Caribbean
 
But those persons are white and not native persons,it seems the native genitics are 90% wipe out,but there culure ist being lived on by white persons.

pinguin December 26th, 2009 05:31 AM

Re: On the colonization of the Caribbean
 
Those persons look native, not white. It is something we know very well that many "white" people has native ancestry.
Come on. I am Chilean, and I can distinguish well...

pinguin December 26th, 2009 05:33 AM

Re: On the colonization of the Caribbean
 
More info:

This comment was in the forum by fellow poster Corrocamino

Quote:

When the indigenous people of the Caribbean had been almost entirely wiped out by European-introduced diseases and the vicissitudes of slavery on some islands (e.g., Puerto Rico), the Spanish obtained new slaves among the Maya of the Yucatan Peninsula. My kids had friends in California who were nominally Puerto Rican by origin, but they (and their mother) were the spitting images of Maya I saw in Guatemala, as judged by stature and visages. So, just a note about slave labor, eradication and translocation of people.
There is a misconception here. Tainos and Arawaks never went extinct. Profesor Martinez Cruzado proved already that the population of Puerto Rico is Amerindian descendent. So, the idea that the Indians went extinct in the Caribbean is a myth. They didn't extinct. They mixed.

This is obvious from the studies of Martinez-Cruzado, and also from literary sources of Colonial times, that shows that admixture was in very large scale. By the way, one of the reasons why the Tainos were "declared extincted" in the Caribbean was simply because that was the excuse needed for importing slaves. So, it was convenient for farmers of the region to declare the natives extincted. Which is not really what happened there.

Studies,
http://www.taino-tribe.org/pr-taino-dna.htm

For those who speak Spanish, this is the research of Martinez-Cruzado
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASVo6iqgSU&feature=related"]YouTube - Prof. Martinez Cruzado Lecture Part 1[/ame]


Taino organizations of the Caribbean. Lot of info there

http://www.indigenouspeople.net/taino.htm


Caribbeans with Indigenous phenotypes

Batista (Cuban)
http://laveraddominicana.files.wordp...io-batista.jpg


Chayanne (Puerto Rican)
http://www.musica.pro/noticias/wp-co...s/chayanne.Jpg

Puerto Rican Tainos
http://www.prfdance.org/ConcilioTain...63.Cropped.jpg

Dominican Republic Taino.
http://www.pucmmsti.edu.do/Revista/H...s/image025.jpg



Surviving Arawak speaking peoples outside in the non-Hispanic Caribbean

Trinidad
http://www.centrelink.org/amerinheritageday.jpg

Dominica
http://www.dominica.dm/site/images/pic_caribs.jpg

Haiti
http://www.haitianarawak.com/pictures/fombrun.jpg


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