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Old December 21st, 2015, 10:14 AM   #1
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Has any American president visited Native American reservations?


After hearing Obama is the first president to visit Alaska and a federal prison while in office, I wondered if any visited native american reservations? If so how do they deal with the sensitive issues which caused them to be in reservations in the first place?

In American schools do they teach they were victims of injustice that lasted centuries? ie it was wrong to force prople off their own lands by settlers who were illegal immigrants? But that was in the dark ages during the birth of the country? Has the government acknowledged this? Issued apologies to improve relations?Or have a native American day of remembrance etc? Or is that all Seen as 'political correctness' gone mad?
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Sorry!

Bill Clinton had no Reservations about Monica Lewinski, but I still won't put that cigar in my mouth.
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Old December 21st, 2015, 11:27 AM   #3

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Not Obama's first visit to a Reservation. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...217_story.html

This article mentions that Obama is the 8th POTUS to visit a Reservation.
And Obama Makes Eight: Presidents Who Visited Indian Country - ICTMN.com

Theodore Roosevelt visited several before he became President

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In American schools do they teach they were victims of injustice that lasted centuries? ie it was wrong to force prople off their own lands by settlers who were illegal immigrants? But that was in the dark ages during the birth of the country? Has the government acknowledged this? Issued apologies to improve relations?Or have a native American day of remembrance etc? Or is that all Seen as 'political correctness' gone mad?
U.S. schools not only teach what happened between whites and Indians in the 234 years of U.S. history, they also teach what happened between the British and the Indians in the 160 years of the colonial era (do they teach that in British schools?) It is not taught here that Europeans were illegal immigrants because no evidence has been found that Indians had immigration laws.

Only 3 of the 50 states have a remembrance day, but many historical sites and museums preserve the history and culture of Native Americans are maintained by the federal and state governments, including the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C. There isn't anything about the history of European-Americans and Indians that is not in plain sight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...merican_Indian

And, yes, the Federal government apologized to Native Americans in 2010:

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Public Law 111-118, Section 8113—The Apology to Native Peoples of the United States explains, “the United States, acting through Congress— • Recognizes that there have been years of official depredations, ill-conceived policies, and the breaking of covenants by the Federal Government regarding Indian tribes;
• Apologizes on behalf of the people of the United States to all Native Peoples for the many instances of violence, maltreatment, and neglect inflicted on Native Peoples by the citizens of the United States; and
• Urges the President to acknowledge the wrongs of the United States against Indian tribes in the history of the United States in order to bring healing to this land….”
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I know this is dreaming but wouldn't it be wonderful if some arrangement was made where a state was given to the Indians where they could control and live the way they wanted according to their traditions. A place where millions of tourists could go to learn the ways of the land in an ultra friendly atmosphere. They could pay a tax to the federal government but they would be in charge of the state. That would heal a lot of old wounds and change they way the rest of the world looks at the U.S.
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I know this is dreaming but wouldn't it be wonderful if some arrangement was made where a state was given to the Indians where they could control and live the way they wanted according to their traditions. A place where millions of tourists could go to learn the ways of the land in an ultra friendly atmosphere. They could pay a tax to the federal government but they would be in charge of the state. That would heal a lot of old wounds and change they way the rest of the world looks at the U.S.
No, I don't think it would help anything. At all.
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No, I don't think it would help anything. At all.
I know, that why I said it was dream..ya dig.
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I know this is dreaming but wouldn't it be wonderful if some arrangement was made where a state was given to the Indians where they could control and live the way they wanted according to their traditions. A place where millions of tourists could go to learn the ways of the land in an ultra friendly atmosphere. They could pay a tax to the federal government but they would be in charge of the state. That would heal a lot of old wounds and change they way the rest of the world looks at the U.S.
Yeah but as far as I know the majority of Aboriginal Americans, at least in the Cherokee Nation, don't really care much at all about traditional lifestyles.
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Yeah but as far as I know the majority of Aboriginal Americans, at least in the Cherokee Nation, don't really care much at all about traditional lifestyles.
Of course they don't, it was driven out of them and it's too late now.
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U.S. schools not only teach what happened between whites and Indians in the 234 years of U.S. history, they also teach what happened between the British and the Indians in the 160 years of the colonial era (do they teach that in British schools?) It is not taught here that Europeans were illegal immigrants because no evidence has been found that Indians had immigration laws.
You got to be sarcastic or ironic about the last sentence? Surely you can tell right from wrong lol! The Europeans were not invited! Neither would they allow anyone doing the same to them in their home countries. it was illegal unless it was an all out war. The wars with the Native Anericans were undeclared, illegal in that they broke agreements they made with them. Both the british and the original 13 colonists and the independent states after. During the wars of independence and civil war, both sides made promises to the Indians for their support and subsequently failed to honour after. They also did the same to african Americans.

I wondered could the federal govt ever forc them off the reservations? Or is it enshrined in law? I understand the native Anericans live under their own traditional laws but can not have their own foreign policy. What if they had closer links with 'unfriendly' states like ie Cuba or Venezuela who supported native peoples. Could the govt intervene? If they found oil, gold mineral wealth in abundance supplies, a lot more than has been found in some reservations, could the govt intervene? They don't have a strong presence in both houses of government so do they have the political clout to influence things?
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