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Old November 15th, 2012, 12:50 PM   #101
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Dear forum users, I got acquainted with work of the historian Yuri N. Drozdov, "Turk ethnonymy European peoples. " This work is mainly based on the work of our great historian and philosopher M. Z Zakiev
Very intresting thing. It is a pity that this work printed without my transcriptions of Sumerian syllabic tablets. Nevertheless, the breadth and depth of coverage of historical material affects mind. Please you, dear readers make several assumptions when reading and linguistic analysis of the work that you present is very clear what the European peoples and languages:

Language of the Turks in Scandinavia and northern Europe-language of Turkistan, Turkmens, Uzbeks (Karluk) as clearly seen that in the place of our Tatar affix LY-LE-LU in the northern language affix TY-TE-TU = DY-De-DU.For example in modern languages ​​instead of EGETTYAR- EGETLYAR, ATTAR-ATLAR .You can clearly see that ING affix to the endings of words -it is Uzbek affix ING.
Undeniable proof of origin in the arguments of the Scandinavians from Turks of Central Asia:

juddy . . . utty, utii, uddy = UT-LY="Firely", suidy=SUILY = SUY-LY = "River (People)", Ålandy = ALAN-ly="ALANs", NORDY=NOR-LY="Polar Light", Kimbr= kimyabar = "Going ships", Knut-Konut- Kanute = "SUNny Fire". Ingon = "sent down", Ingu = "revelation", "penetration" (ingderu = "explanation" (to sense penetration into the meaning of an active form of DERU)
Skald (e) = Sakal-ly="The bearded", ODIN = UDing = UT+ING = "Fire", "Fire revelation","Fire itself". Hevding=kebdy + ING (karlukian- Uzbek-endings and suffixes, suffixes of Turkmen TY instead of LY) in this case ING is the ending of participle.
kebyading=kebyaling = "Dressed in chain armour".
Dii-phonetic variant of the Sumerian DI. Dii = storyteller, the narrator epics Neolithic historian or the magician with hypnotic abilities.
Darottin = daruttyn = "Healing the soul, " "Healing Spirit" . - Extremely accurate in deciphering M.Z.Zakiev. (Probably priest: KAM-iR =GAM+iR = GUM-iR = "Shaman")
INGVAR = Ingu + Var =Ingu + Bar= "enlightened" in the sense that Ingu = "revelation", "clarification". "Ingderyu"-"an explanation". (Ing=most, top, self. Inesh = Source, the First Principle) .

Norway =NORVEGiA= "NOR + Biek+iyA" = " Тhe Owner of high Radiance". " That is exactly in Norway Northern Lights, right at the zenith.
Nordy = NOR-Ly = Turks from the places of the Northern Lights. and so on.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #102
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Absolutely precisely it is known that SARMATIANS were the nomadic people of Central Asia which considered itself as a mix of HUNS-TURKIS and SKITHIANS.Sach as, Blgarian of 5-6 centuries of our era answered the Greek dealers: "Blgarians have occurred from Huns-Turkis and Scythians. But Scythians are too Turkis" .
Clearly, probably, already everything that Scythians-Turkis of Andronovians have reached Eastern Siberia, the Minusinsk hollow already 20-24 000 years ago. Remaining the part on the chosen earths: On Altai, in Ural, in Southern Ural Mountains, near Kaspean Sea, in Black Sea Coast and so on. Approximately 13-15 000 years ago these Turkis-andronovians have gone down to Mesopotamia to base Great Sumer cities-states. In a civilisation of Sumer ancient Turkis have invented special language for babies imi-sal=imi-tel.When Sumerians have moved back on open spaces of all Eurasia, they had already two sacral languages: Sacred Turkic Z-language (iri-sal) and new - female R-language imi-sal.Those Sumerian have returned on open spaces of Eurasia where walked ANCESTORS of Sumerian = same Andronovian, but with one Z-language dominated.
Perfectly understanding the relationship with Turkis of Eurasia, being among TURKIS, Turkis from Mesopotamia named themselves simply: SOUTHERN, from SOUTH=GUNNU, KUNNU, КЕNNU, КОNNU, without being set by a problem to separate itself from actually Turkis who were not going down to Mesopotamia.
And now look, why SARMATIANS named themselves SARYM-AT:
1) Remember one more self-name of Sarmatians: КЕNTAVR=КЕN+ТАU+AR=South Mountaineers.
2) SARYM-AT = ҖARYM-AT = "Semihorses".
Greeks have appeared almost universal Semites, hence, Greeks, as well as other Semites should not distinguish Turkic hissing phonemes. Remember: SHIN-AR = "SЕNNААR". Sumer words SHAG-GIG Semites-akkadians have again transformed in SAG-GIG, having brought a lot of mess in decoding of sillabica and cuneiform writings Sumer.
So, we come to exact understanding that the first phoneme in word SARYM-AT it is exact literation from a Sumer-Turkic phoneme Җ(j) or Щ(sh).

Let's write precisely how said the self-name SARYM-ATs: ҖARYM-AT = ҖАRМАТ = "SEMIHORSES", "SEMIHUMAN".
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Let's consider primary sources:

"sauromatai.
The word "Sauromatae" appears for the first time in classical texts in II century before B.C.(Poliby, 25.2). The Pliny Senior (4.80) asserts that the first variant of a writing of a word was Greek, and another - Latin "Sarmatae, Graecis Sauromatae".
The Greek authors of IV century to River Х, (and Evdoks Knidsky) mention Psevdostsilaks neighbors of the Scythians who are living beyond Don and called Syrmatai"

[b] sauromatai. It is a real transcription of the Roman-Latin name of Sarmatians. As the TATAR language is remarkably constant!!!!!
So: the Second century before B.C.: sauromatai = җarym+ат+таi=щаrym+ат+таi (!!!!!) = "As a semihorse", "Similar to a semihorse", "Similar to a centaur"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will notice that the phoneme Җ and Щ at Tatars sounds very softly, and Semites, and only - at all didn't distinguish and don't distinguish soft Җ and Щ Tatar from a phoneme S.
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Why Turkic y-DNA R1b of Sarmatians it has appeared so a little in a central-mountain part of Europe?
Correctly! Chose that of a horse, racers.))).
For this reason the best water meadows of Europe also became center y-DNA R1b.In Holland R1b - to 80 %, in Germany - on separate areas, - again from 60 % to 80 %. In Ireland R1b again to 80 %, in Great Britain on areas-from of 50 % to 60-70 %. In the south of France and the north of Spain R1b - to 80 %. On the highest mountains racers don't get... And WHAT FOR? And here hilly, a hilly terrain of the south of France and the north of Spain for racers optimum. Because the winter doesn't happen, and is where above to hide from mosquitoes and gadflies. For cleanliness of experiment it would be necessary and haplogroups racers Dutch, Irish, English and South French to check up.
Undoubtedly are descendants of Turkmen racers, and can directly Ahal-tekins.
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Consider the Sumerian word-definitions for written characters: UK, OK = "arrow", "Wedge". OKU, UKU = "Reading, " "Alphabet". UKULU = "Literate" .

Now consider the selfname of Turkic nomads: OGUZ, OGUR . . . . On-Ok-Guz, On-Ok-Gur.
Until now, this selfname of 10 nomadic Turkic tribes translated as "People of the 10 arrows. " What, "10 Arrows"? Unknown!
Why "10 Arrows"? It is not clear!
But if we remember that Turks are descendants of Sumerian, then the Turks and had to use an ancient sumerian definition for its RUNIC writing-UK, OK....- we have got :

UK-GUZ = OK-GUZ = "The people of cuneiform" = "People Awards", "Literate people"

UK-GUR = OK-GUR = "The people of cuneiform" = "People Awards", "Literate people".

ON-OK-GUR (onogur) = "The people of the 10 characters of writing".That is, each of the ten tribes took a single letter of the runic writing(as TAMGA=Mark, The mark), which is still the old way was called OKU, UKU.
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Let's analyse the name of ethnos the Scythian on Semitic and not Semitic fixings in annals and historical chronicles:

Iranians wrote Scythians: iSHKUZA, iSHGUZA, ESHKUZA, ESKUZA

Semites-Greeks wrote down SKYTHAE, SKYTHOi.

So, we will start: I Will remind you, dear readers that newcomers from the Minusinsk hollow, natives from the east were called at Turkis iSHTAK, ESTAK, ОSTAK.Root of this word iSHT, EST, OST already considered and has proved that this word at ancient Turkis meant "Top" (there where there ascends the sun) = "East".Замечу that other Turkis have also such variant of this word: ES, ЁS.Аffics "АК" - in the termination of Turkic words means entering existential inconstancy in time and in space, that is moving, wandering, especially if this word concerns ethnos definition. Word АS, АSТ meant "Bottom" (there where the sun sinks) = "West", "Western".For example: ТUNGUS=ТUNG+ES = "East Tundra-vians". "Tundra-vians from the east".
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SKYTHAE.- It is important to consider this word from the point of view of the use by Greeks of a phoneme "th" in the middle or in the end of a word.
Probably, superfluous will mention that this phoneme "th" in various Greek tribes was sounded on a miscellaneous. As well as in modern English language. I hear a sound "Z" at a pronunciation of Englishmen of this phoneme. Other part of British hardly puts out a language tip at phoneme scoring "th" and then I hear a teeth-slot-hole, deaf phoneme "D".Else one part of British further and English-speaking say a deaf, teeth-slot-hole phoneme "S".
In this case, for me and for you, respected readers, very important that 2000 years ago this phoneme "th" was said and could be said as a phoneme "Z".So... and we will write its transliteration: SKUZA, SKUZАЕ, SKUZAi.

As you can see, between the Iranian sources and the semito-Greek sources of a basic difference isn't present.
Let's write down nearby both variants:

ESHGUZA, ESKUZA-Iranian sources.

SKUZA, SКUZAi- the semito-Greek sources.

ESGUZ, ESGUZA - Assyrian sources.

Also we receive:


ES-KUZ, ES-GUZ = "Top ОGUZ". = "East ОGUZ".
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Kyr-Gyz = "the Mountain Nomad" (кyrgyz).ilGiZ = "Wandering on the country(man)", ilGiZjA = "Wandering on the country(woman)", ilGIZjar = "the man Wandering on the country". GhinGYZ = Сhyn-Gyz = "the present Nomad".GiZ = "Nomad",
GiZ = "Wander", GiZU = "Wandering", (KiCh=Pass.KUCH = "Move, depart aside. KACH=Run, Hide,) in the Tatar language.
And now we will return to an initial variant to a writing of word SKYTH:As soon have assumed, what the phoneme "th" in word SKUTHAE was precisely sounded as a phoneme "Z" why in the truncated variant should be on another?

Let's consider this truncated variant: SKYTH = SKYZ=SGYZ.
Let's remember that Greeks-Semites before any word proclaimed with dense aspiration sound E, or hE-like Ukrainian GE.
Accordingly, Greeks also shouldn't notice the first a phoneme "E" in word ESGyZ=SGyZ.
And further, rightfully we assume that this word SKYTH is primary was sounded by Turkis as ES-GiZ=ES-GyZ = "East Nomad", "the Top Nomad".But this word SGyZ=Es-GyZ should concern the concrete Turkic man from people ES-GUZians.
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Let me guess...

The Russian Academy of sciences, has not given an answer to all these findings?
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I must say, that this is the worst BS I have read the last year.
I especially like the part where the Runic alphabet is derived from turkish scripture, and not an Italic alphabet.
And how the Germanic People got iron from the Turks and not from the Celts.
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Let me guess...

The Russian Academy of sciences, has not given an answer to all these findings?
There death silence reigns.
I sent to the Russian Academy of Sciences electronic letters 3 or 4 years ago, have stirred posts on a site of the Russian Academy of Sciences, but any answer from the Russian Academy of Sciences to me wasn't.
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I must say, that this is the worst BS I have read the last year.
I especially like the part where the Runic alphabet is derived from turkish scripture, and not an Italic alphabet.
And how the Germanic People got iron from the Turks and not from the Celts.
The opinion of engaged "scientists" isn't interesting to me.
The present researcher would be interested by the main thing in my works: Decodings of Sumerian tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
But you have preferred to refuse grapes only because it of green color)))))
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