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Old April 10th, 2010, 06:10 AM   #31

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Re: Caesar Pronunciation?


But back on topic.....so can you order Caesar salad in Moscow? or is there "Kesar " salad?

Would you get in trouble these days in Paris asking for "freedom fries"?
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 07:30 PM   #32
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A philosophy graduate's contribution: it's pronounced "Caesar."
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 08:27 PM   #33

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What is the actual, proper pronunciation of Caesar's name?

Seezar

or

Kaezer
????
The Romans *themselves* would have used the latter; the former is merely an Anglicized version used (as far as I know) *only* in English.

Personally, when I'm reading any Latin name, word, etc., in my head, I use the "reconstruction" Latin (which is very close to Italian phonetics). However, when I'm speaking to people, I use the Anglicized version, since it's better known to English speakers.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 09:58 PM   #34

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Like "Kesar". In English I tend to say seezar but it is actually a K sound like "Kettle". I have said it before, the worst thing in Courses of Latin & Greek are people who are trying to be correct with pronunciation but read everything like if it is Uk English and no accents.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 10:25 PM   #35

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'C' is a 'k', 'ae' is an 'aye' sound, the final 'r' is pronounced (Latin being a rhotic language). So 'Kaisar'.
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Old August 24th, 2012, 02:10 AM   #36

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I studied Latin for five years back when I was in highschool and I have always pronounced "Caesar" as "Cha(like in the word "chase")-sar".
Both "Chasar"("modern Latin") and "Kaisar"(the alleged "Ancient Latin") are correct,while "Seezar(English pronunciation) is wrong.
By the way, I don't mind if an English speaker pronounce "Caesar" as "Seezar",that's completely understandable(and it's also cool)
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Old August 24th, 2012, 03:22 AM   #37

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I'm late in this discussion but of course it dependes of the language. Latin pronunciation was:

*Iulius Kaesar

Vulgar Latin was:

*Kesar


No idea how to pronounce in English.



In Spanish it depends of the dialect, mine is like this:

*Julio CÚsar = Hulio SÚsar

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Old August 24th, 2012, 06:29 AM   #38

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I'm late in this discussion but of course it dependes of the language. Latin pronunciation was:

*Iulius Kaesar

Vulgar Latin was:

*Kesar


No idea how to pronounce in English.



In Spanish it depends of the dialect, mine is like this:

*Julio CÚsar = Hulio SÚsar
It's normally pronounced the same way as 'seizer' in English.
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Old August 24th, 2012, 03:11 PM   #39

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I have a doubt about something you told before pixi666. You said:

Caesar = Kaisar

I've looked on this and there are two different opinions:

1. That an old author was wrong equalling ae=ai
2. That, according to Germanic prevalence, the pronunciation of that dyphthong was certainlly true.

However, vulgar latin was without doubt Kesar, from where Romance languages inherited the word.

Might the vulgar pronunciation in certain frontier areas was like that, or I'm wrong and ae=ai could be found in classical latin.
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http://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/latinpro.pdf

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