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Old December 27th, 2017, 07:27 AM   #81
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[QUOTE=Matthew Amt;2876366] No, no! NEVER think I'm actually pointing fingers on that score, I've never read NEARLY enough on ANY topic!

Originally Posted by Matthew Amt View Post
But, I mean, HOMER. Try it, you'll like it! Lattimore translation.

Bless you Matthew-I always tell people to read Lattimore first.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 01:55 PM   #82

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Agreed that Lattimore is the best translation. There is an online version here along with the Greek and some neat tools to help with translation.

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Old January 17th, 2018, 08:31 AM   #83
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And remember, this isn't a radically different location. It's the same general area, still near the Scamander. It's just a bit further inland. In fact, looking at the quote I included in the OP again, it seems the suggestion is even less significant than that. This is the quote, with the most important parts highlighted:

"To recap, this theory suggests that Hisarlik was part of the first defences of a Trojan homeland that stretched far further inland than is fully appreciated now and probably included the entire valley of the Scamander and its plains... That doesn’t mean to say that most of the battles did not take place on the Plain of Troy near Hisarlik as tradition has it but this was only the Trojans ‘front garden’ as it were, yet the main Trojan territory was behind the defensive line of hills and was vastly bigger with the modern town of Ezine its capital – the real Troy."

So, the theory seems to actually be that the commonly proposed 'reconstruction' (as per Dan Howard) is basically correct, but just that the actual city of Troy was further inland (i.e. where the modern town of Ezine is). How possible does that sound?
Could anyone shed some light on this? Does the Iliad absolutely require the actual city of Troy to have been right next to all those other features and the battle plain (as in the reconstruction), or does it allow for the possibility that it was actually quite some distance away (as would be the case if the city was actually where modern Ezine is now)?
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