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Old October 12th, 2017, 07:49 PM   #81

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Their angular composite bows were amazing too. They found an amazing variety of fine bows with Tut:

https://www.worldcat.org/search?q=kw...ced&dblist=638
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I think there were nine total. Amazing fortifications, submerged by Aswan Dam.

Buhen:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is....0.GyKSIDHp4pA

None of them were ever taken by force, apparently. They look positively Medieval.
Absolutely amazing! The ancient Egyptians were masters of constructing fortifications. In fact, I believe they invented this particular military technology. Or if they didn't invent it, they certainly perfected it for the Bronze Age.

Sneferu's campaign against lower Nubia early in the Fourth Dynasty was a massive military endeavor. He allegedly returned with 7,000 prisoners of war, which were likely used for his construction projects. The Egyptian army under Sneferu appear to have completely annihilated The Nubian A group, in what very well may have been the first "genocide" to use modern terminology, in recorded history.

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I think a bit if hubris drove Ramses II. He allowed his divisions to get strung out where they couldn't support each other..
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LOL! If you don't mind making the long drive. Sure, why not. Having elbow macaroni with five cheese sauce, chopped up organic beef hot dogs, and about five or six cloves of garlic. The sauce is prepared in olive oil, and seasoned with a liberal dosage of sea salt.
I'm standing outside your door. Let me in. I'm hungry.
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I think a bit if hubris drove Ramses II. He allowed his divisions to get strung out where they couldn't support each other..
He certainly was governed by pride, and the Egyptian army took some very significant casualties early in the campaign. However, Ramses military genius and the training, discipline, and valor of his troops ultimately prevailed. The Battle of Qadesh was a major tactical victory, though it didn't succeed in reconquering the city-state.
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Sure thing. Still plenty of pasta. I have Centennial IPA in the fridge, though you better let me know if you want one as they are going fast tonight. LOL
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Send your Ka and he can make a macaroni offering..
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He certainly was governed by pride, and the Egyptian army took some very significant casualties early in the campaign. However, Ramses military genius and the training, discipline, and valor of his troops ultimately prevailed. The Battle of Qadesh was a major tactical victory, though it didn't succeed in reconquering the city-state.
He turned around and blamed his chariotry for "abandoning" him. Of course he had to single-handedly save the day
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He turned around and blamed his chariotry for "abandoning" him. Of course he had to single-handedly save the day
That was actually a very common motif during the Bronze Age, not just in Egypt. All Near Eastern military victories were said to be won at the hands of the king. The Qadesh Bulletin actually describes Ramses as "the great savior of his army, and the protector of his chariotry."

The Hittite king was referred to as "hsy kht," or literally "the cowardly chief of Hatti."
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Think of chariotry the same as armored spearheads in modern warfare but on a smaller more intimate scale. Breaking through breaks in the line, attacking support elements and command, and encircling an enemy for destruction.
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