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Old January 1st, 2018, 05:17 PM   #21

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Huns were european looking or asian looking?

Probably both. Some physical descriptions of them sound Mongoloid (short, broad faces, flat noses, small eyes), and other groups, such as the "White Huns", are described as very tall and handsome looking (meaning they were probably of the same race as the writer, Caucasian). Even when they were still in the far east they were probably a mix of Mongoloid and Scythian people. They were a multi-ethnic state almost from the beginning.

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Old January 1st, 2018, 05:41 PM   #22

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Two possible templates:

Tall Hun
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Steven Seagal, European grandmother, Kalmyk Mongol grandfather.

Small Hun
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The late Brandon Lee, 3/4 Chinese father, White American mother.

Like I said earlier, the Huns, by the time they were in Europe, wud hv looked quite Europoid, becos it wud hv taken them several generations to move gradually from their homeland in eastern Central Asia. They were not short term marauders like late 13th century Mongols. They were in Europe with the intention to settle permanently.

And BTW, it only takes a couple of generations or so of interbreeding with European females, to greatly dilute out the great bulk of their original archetypical oriental northern Mongoloid look, and make them predominantly Europoid looking.

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Old January 1st, 2018, 07:36 PM   #23

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Their style of warfare was consistent with that practiced in Mongolia and vicinity. They started as very Mongol looking. After decades of taking foreign women in foreign territories they rampaged through, many would have been of mixed blood and they would have started to look like the Uzbeks of Central Asia.

Attila himself was really a short, ugly man, nothing like he is portrayed in movies.

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Within a lot of steppe nomad empires there always seems to be some contingent that wants to safeguard the original culture and keep it from being diluted as new cultures are encountered. Was there ever a group like that among the Huns? Were there Hun "purists"? Was there ever a Hun equivalent of the Mongol Qaidu, who didn't approve of Mongols becoming Sinicized?

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LOL. I don't thnk they cud hv done that, Stev. Becos they left their Hunnu/Xiongnu female-folk at home, didn't bring those ladies along with them all the way to Europe.
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Asia, North of the great mountain chains, is a giant territory without significant natural borders or barriers. So that to be accurate about the origin of this or that people from the steppes is quite difficult, without certain documents supporting this or that thesis.

Historically we can say that they appeared around river Don, beyond Azof Sea. For the rest there are interesting theories, but, I repeat, the conformation of the territory cannot exclude ethnic mixtures and cultural pollution [like about the way they fought].

And overall we don't know with accuracy from when they begun to consider themselves a separated entity: the people of the Huns.
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Their style of warfare was consistent with that practiced in Mongolia and vicinity. They started as very Mongol looking. After decades of taking foreign women in foreign territories they rampaged through, many would have been of mixed blood and they would have started to look like the Uzbeks of Central Asia.

Attila himself was really a short, ugly man, nothing like he is portrayed in movies.
Their warfare was not mongoloid particularly.
That warfare was common to all central asian tribes and those were mainly indoeuropean ones , mongol tribes probably derived from the the kind of warfare.
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Their warfare was not mongoloid particularly.
That warfare was common to all central asian tribes and those were mainly indoeuropean ones , mongol tribes probably derived from the the kind of warfare.
I said Mongolia and vicinity. And central Asians were for a great part a Turko-Mongol people with Asiatic features. So no. Their style of warfare is consistent with the people of this region.
Example of Central Asians Kazakhs and Uzbeks
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The Parthian had a similar style as well but they were not connected to the Huns. They weren't on par with the Mongol and Huns when it comes to horse archery and tactics.

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I'm really sad to see that many of you post wiki as historical proof, so I really wonder who of you have read Ammianus Marcellinus, Priscus or Jordanes and where are the quotes... Where are the archeological works: H.Schreibber, Die Hunnen, H. Meulenhoff, Baarn, 1976: "that the Huns are surprisingly high.." What proof any of you have what language they spoke to classify as a turks? Huns that inhabits Europe and Asia are they same or different? I was in the uni and I don't remember when was the last time someone use wiki in it's works.

(Maenchen-Helfen). As has already been explained, however, neither the Huntian anthropological type, nor the Huns' glosses, material culture, and life of the IV-V century have anything to do with the Turks.
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LOL. I don't thnk they cud hv done that, Stev. Becos they left their Hunnu/Xiongnu female-folk at home, didn't bring those ladies along with them all the way to Europe.

Not racial purity, I mean cultural purity. Were there Huns who tried to preserve what they would've considered the "old ways"?
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