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Old June 26th, 2010, 05:18 AM   #1

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Gypsys in Macedonia


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i was wondering if anyone could help me. I am trying to find our information on the Macedonia Gypsys in 332 BC. Or around that time.

I have looked online and cant seem to find anything, any help very welcome.

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Old June 26th, 2010, 05:25 AM   #2

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Could you give us your definition of 'gypsy' please?
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Old June 26th, 2010, 07:26 AM   #3
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If by Gypsy you mean Romani (which is actually a very modern connotation) then you aren't going to find anything about them in Macedonia in 332 BC, namely because they weren't even in Europe until the 1300s AD.
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Old June 26th, 2010, 11:19 AM   #4

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No your wrong ^^

I suggest you read "the story of the Gypsys" by Konrad Bercovici. There where Gypsy people in Greece before Alexandrea the Great. There where Gypsy people all over the world BC.

And by Gypsy I mean One inclined to a nomadic, unconventional way of life. Not all Gypsys are Romany you know!

I have Gypsy blood, my grandmother was a Gypsy and she is not a Romany.

If you cant help then ok thanks for reading my post. And I am sorry if I offended anyone.

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Old June 26th, 2010, 02:09 PM   #5

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Do you mean nomadic pastoral herdsmen? I think it's a bit of a misnomer to call them gypsies.
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Old June 27th, 2010, 02:00 AM   #6

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According to the book "Story of the Gypsy" written in 1928 by a Gypsy named Konrad Bercovici. There where Gypsy people all over the world BC.

I understand that this question I asked, no one has an answer to it.

So thanks for reading, I do not want to get in to a debate on the subject.

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Oh sorry, so by Gypsy you mean nomadic herdsmen as Sargon said? That makes some degree of sense although I'm not quite sure how that links into the idea of having "Gypsy blood" if they are not one paticular group.

However, I had a quick read/flick through Story of the Gypsy on Google and have to say that I think the facts are getting confused somewhat. He talks in the intro of the Gypsies being the Jat people, the aforementioned people I say don't arrive in Europe before 1300. He also seems to suggest that Gypsies don't seem to arrive in Europe until 800AD either. Furthermore though, this book is not a historical book, his work is unsourced and has no bibliography at all, also he seems to base his assertions that there were Gypsies in Europe long before the Jat on vague folk stories and legends. Would you mind explaining to us quite what you mean?
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Old June 27th, 2010, 08:51 AM   #8

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There is a chapter in his book called Gypsy people in Macedoina and in this chapter he explains that Gypsy people where in Greece BC.

I understand that his work is unsourced but that does not mean that it is not true in any way.

The man is a Gypsy himself, he was born to a Gypsy family, and Gypsy history is not always written on paper. Most of it is past down word of mouth. So I understand that is some history is unsourced.

And no, Gypsy people are all diffrent kinds of races in our days and there blood has been deluted somewhat by mixing with white people. The first Gypsy people came from Egypt.

These where true blooded Gypsy. I dont think I am making much sense here LOL I am sorry!

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Just because the name "Egypt" is close to the name "Gypsi," doesn't mean they're the same! Gypsies originate in India.
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Just because the name "Egypt" is close to the name "Gypsi," doesn't mean they're the same! Gypsies originate in India.
It's like Indians from America. "Gypsie" does come from "Egyptian". Gypsies do come from India. Those darned medieval uneducated people!
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