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Old June 18th, 2011, 05:18 AM   #1
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Roman Art


I would like to clarify some aspects of the Roman arts, but I don't
know who can discuss it with me.
Can you help me?

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Helmet of a Thracian Gladiator – Greek, Etruscan, and Roman Antiquities | Louvre Museum
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Fragment de peinture murale – Antiquités grecques, étrusques et romaines | Musée du Louvre
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Trésor de Boscoreale – Antiquités grecques, étrusques et romaines | Musée du Louvre
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Museo Civilta Romana

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I used image editor (Adobe Photoshop).
What is it?
And one question more please. Has someone ancient Greek or Roman
inscription without the picture under it? I see always the following:

Boustrophedon Boustrophedon
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Why to write on the picture, if many clear stones were around?
And if it was written on the picture; when it was written?

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Roman Art: Pantheon
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Old June 19th, 2011, 01:10 AM   #2
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This relief:
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was "repaired". I don't call it Fake, because it was made a long time ago.
This is original:

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ALL "Roman" and "ancient Greek" art is "repaired", probably in the Dark Ages. Why? I don't know, somebody did not like it.
If you don't agree, post please the image of the original ancient art.
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rabbula-pentecost.jpg (image)

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Which one is the original?

Both
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rabbula-pentecost.jpg (image)

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Which one is the original?

Both
The first. The colouring of the second is obviously not original. And its not exactly Roman, its Syriac.
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The first. The colouring of the second is obviously not original. And its not exactly Roman, its Syriac.
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You mean Roman (Byzantine) Syria ? The Roman colony?

Oh, I''m afraid you don't understand me. More examples:

The Market
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The coin

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Roman Mosaics in Arles* -* Travel Photos by Galen R Frysinger, Sheboygan, Wisconsin

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I can post pictures of many Byzantine Icons and churches

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Too much black colour, but the contrast is better.
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You mean Roman (Byzantine) Syria ? The Roman colony?
Any piece of art created within an empire(e.g. Roman) doesn't make it roman art , for example.
They Syriacs had their own distinct style just as Armenians, Copts, Greeks, and Latins.

They style of the hands of the above picture I commented is very similar to many coptic icons and illustrations.
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"Any piece of art created within an empire(e.g. Roman) doesn't make it roman art" - yes, but not in this case.

Which one is the original:
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Both are the otiginals. Every schoolboy, whio can use image editor, can get these pictures.
People must know this.
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"Any piece of art created within an empire(e.g. Roman) doesn't make it roman art" - yes, but not in this case.
Why, the illustrations we are talking about are from a Syriac translation of the Bible. It counts as Syriac for me, despite the influences it has.


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Both are the otiginals. Every schoolboy, whio can use image editor, can get these pictures.
People must know this.
Sorry, but I don't get your point.
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Why, the illustrations we are talking about are from a Syriac translation of the Bible. It counts as Syriac for me, despite the influences it has.



Sorry, but I don't get your point.
This icon was rewritten, but a long time ago. Ancient picture was another.
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This icon was rewritten, but a long time ago. Ancient picture was another.
How have you ended in this point?
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