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August 30th, 2011, 10:57 PM
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#21 | | Scholar
Joined: Apr 2011 From: Finland Posts: 541 |
I've read that Plato heard about Atlantis from Egyptian priests. If that is not already a fantasy.
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August 31st, 2011, 12:17 AM
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#22 | | Archivist
Joined: Jul 2011 From: Southern California Posts: 123 | Quote:
Originally Posted by mikainen I've read that Plato heard about Atlantis from Egyptian priests. If that is not already a fantasy. | No, Plato heard it from a guy who heard it from his grandfather who heard it from Egyptian priests. I don't believe a word of it. Though I am curious as to what was going on in Plato's head when he wrote this piece.
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August 31st, 2011, 12:41 AM
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#23 | | Lecturer
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 314 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadir Can someone tell me what this youtube vids are all about. For us who cant watch vids. |
Sure, the first one is just composed of randomly chosen pictures without any explanation, I guess that is supposed to be the evidence that proves the existence Atlantis, and the second one just looks like a bad apocalyptic Japanese cartoon with awful music, I cant see anything important in these vids.
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August 31st, 2011, 12:43 AM
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#24 | | Archivist
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 209 |
just a quick question, do you think that the fabled island of Hy-Brazil is also a myth?
I only heard about it the other day seems a very interesting story.
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August 31st, 2011, 01:04 AM
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#25 | | Historian
Joined: Jan 2011 From: Southeast England Posts: 5,489 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohammed the Persian Well... I hear a lot of myths about it and all, but have we any evidence to prove it ever existed ?  | I don't think so. I've always understood that the story was originally thought up by Plato or someone as a warning to Athenians of what would happen if they became decadent like the Atlanteans. No evidence that I am aware of that there was such a place.
Some people argue that remains of Mediterranean islands that had volcanoes erupt on them are origins for Atlantis, but I gather that the story says that Atlantis lay outside the pillars of Hercules, so that would put it in the Atlantic rather than the Mediterranean. But of course stories about those places may have given Plato an idea for his story.
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August 31st, 2011, 02:20 AM
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#26 | | Historian
Joined: Nov 2010 From: Londinium Posts: 1,580 |
I think I remember a Bettany Hughes documentary where she claimed Atlantis was an allegory of the fall of Minoan civilization. As a sea-faring trading nation they were wiped out by a tsunami.
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August 31st, 2011, 03:02 AM
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#27 | | Guanarteme
Joined: Feb 2010 From: Canary Islands-Spain Posts: 2,257 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Louise C Some people argue that remains of Mediterranean islands that had volcanoes erupt on them are origins for Atlantis, but I gather that the story says that Atlantis lay outside the pillars of Hercules, so that would put it in the Atlantic rather than the Mediterranean. But of course stories about those places may have given Plato an idea for his story. |
Volcanoes? Atlantic islands? I live in Atlantis!
Well, as Greeks traveled farthest, they tend to put their myths farther.
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August 31st, 2011, 03:12 AM
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#28 | | Pseudo-American
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,677 | Quote:
Originally Posted by mongo likes candy just a quick question, do you think that the fabled island of Hy-Brazil is also a myth?
I only heard about it the other day seems a very interesting story. | Same thing, it's also a myth.
The fact that eyewitnesses have seen it as recently as 1870 might indicate it's just a piece of slightly submered land that comes above water now and then, dependent on the tides.
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August 31st, 2011, 04:48 AM
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#29 | | Scholar
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 934 |
Sorry for the pics, one are the artifacts of the empire of Tartessos, the other just a tune of its end.
Atlantis`s location.
Plato `s Critius
And the name of his younger twin-brother, who had for his portion the extremity of the island near the pillars of Herakles up to the part of the country now called Gadeira.( Gades) A map of the site of ancient Gades compared with modern Cadiz | | |
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August 31st, 2011, 05:15 AM
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#30 | | Archivist
Joined: Aug 2011 From: Florida, US Posts: 126 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Helen's Daughter No, Plato heard it from a guy who heard it from his grandfather who heard it from Egyptian priests. I don't believe a word of it. Though I am curious as to what was going on in Plato's head when he wrote this piece. | I've read that Greek wrtiers would attribute stories and legends to Egypt, it being a more ancient civilization, in order to give stories credence.
But why Greeks would need the Egyptians to tell them a story of Greek history....
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