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View Poll Results: What was the cause of cocaine traces in Egyptian mummies?
Direct trade between Egypt and the Americas? 1 4.17%
Indirect trade between Egypt and the Americas by other nations? 9 37.50%
The toxicology samples were contaminated? 14 58.33%
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 07:34 AM   #1

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Ancient Egyptian Coke-heads

In 1992 a German toxicologist released a report that shook the world of Egyptology. She claimed that she had found, on 3,000 year old mummies, traces of nicotine and cocaine; both plants indigenous to the New World. How was this possible? What was the cause?

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Old November 2nd, 2011, 08:30 AM   #2

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funny they didn't find traces of opium which was used by ancient egyptians...
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 08:33 AM   #3

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probably from the workers who dug them up.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 08:53 AM   #4

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The contamination claim is simply dissembling and doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I voted for no. 2.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 08:57 AM   #5

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probably from the workers who dug them up.
True. I don't think ancient Egyptiants were using cocaine. I voted for no. 3.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 09:24 AM   #6

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I voted for No.2 since that's the only option that makes sense to me, though I thought that nations of the Americas didn't have any trading relationships with other nations in Asia.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 12:23 PM   #7

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My vote goes to the option you left out. - Related Old World alkaloids.

In case anyone didn't know, nicotine plants grew in Africa too...
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:25 PM   #8

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This claim has been around for some years. There is even a pretty good documentary,"The Case Of The Nicotine Mummies"

The answer may be simple,such as locally obtained substances,or more startling. As far as I know, cocaine only comes from from the coca plant,found only in South America.

That implies,but does not prove: that ancient Egyptians traded with pre Columbian South America,a not outrageous idea. Or that they traded with somebody who traded with South America, which seems more likely to me.

There are some pretty good articles on line.They make it hard to dismiss the findings out of hand.

one reference linked below:

American Drugs in Egyptian Mummies
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Old November 5th, 2011, 12:51 AM   #9

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Indirect trade, in my opinion, is the most likely scenario. If the Egyptians had traded for cocaine and/or tobacco, it would most likely be a luxury item...and potentially an item that was used in the mummification process. I could easily see the highs of the drugs being connected with a religious experience, and it would fit with the Egyptian way of thinking to then use them in the preservation of the body for the afterlife.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #10
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Wasnt it speculated that Atlantis was the trade hub of the old world? lol
man those Egyptians knew how to throw a party
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