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Old November 13th, 2011, 11:46 AM   #1

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Are the emerald tablets real ?


Hey guys...
Do you hear about the emerald tablets ?

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The Emerald Tablet, also known as Smaragdine Table, Tabula Smaragdina, or The Secret of Hermes, is a text purporting to reveal the secret of the primordial substance and its transmutations. It claims to be the work of Hermes Trismegistus ("Hermes the Thrice-Greatest"), a legendary Hellenistic[1] combination of the Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian god Thoth.
The history of the Emerald Tablets is strange and beyond the belief of modern scientists. Their antiquity is stupendous, dating back some 36,000 years B.C.

recently i found an english translation of the tablets :
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  http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html
and i am wondering if this is real? i couldn't find a reliable source to covince myself about its reality.
if it is real so why i cant find reliable sources to prove ? and if doesn't, so i can give up whole story !
so if anyone have a reliable source about it to prove existence of tablets or the translation validity please share it whit me.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 11:52 AM   #2

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Hey guys...
Do you hear about the emerald tablets ?




recently i found an english translation of the tablets :
Code:
  http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html
and i am wondering if this is real? i couldn't find a reliable source to covince myself about its reality.
if it is real so why i cant find reliable sources to prove ? and if doesn't, so i can give up whole story !
so if anyone have a reliable source about it to prove existence of tablets or the translation validity please share it whit me.
thanks
I've never heard of them. Hermes Trismegistos I have heard of, however. He was the fictional "hero" of the Corpus Hermeticum, an ancient set of pagan Gnostic writings, dating probably from the first two centuries CE. He was supposed to have been an ancient sage who was shown the secrets of the universe by a daemon called Poimandres. I understand he was a popular figure in much later alchemical writing.
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Old November 13th, 2011, 12:00 PM   #3

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I've never heard of them. Hermes Trismegistos I have heard of, however. He was the fictional "hero" of the Corpus Hermeticum, an ancient set of pagan Gnostic writings, dating probably from the first two centuries CE. He was supposed to have been an ancient sage who was shown the secrets of the universe by a daemon called Poimandres. I understand he was a popular figure in much later alchemical writing.
Wow, that was quick! thanks for replay....so if i want to know about them or find a reliable source, Where would you recommend to find information ?
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Wow, that was quick! thanks for replay....so if i want to know about them or find a reliable source, Where would you recommend to find information ?
I don't know. Like I said, I've never heard of the tablets - maybe somebody else on the forum is better informed than me?

All I can say is that the academic consensus is that Hermes Trismegistos is a fictional character, not a real person. However, the tablets might still be ancient, since they could have been written by an ancient person pretending to be Hermes Trismegistos, just like the Corpus Hermeticum was. However, even if these documents really are ancient, I doubt they really contain the secrets of the universe: probably just ancient occult speculation.
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I don't know. Like I said, I've never heard of the tablets - maybe somebody else on the forum is better informed than me?

All I can say is that the academic consensus is that Hermes Trismegistos is a fictional character, not a real person. However, the tablets might still be ancient, since they could have been written by an ancient person pretending to be Hermes Trismegistos, just like the Corpus Hermeticum was. However, even if these documents really are ancient, I doubt they really contain the secrets of the universe: probably just ancient occult speculation.
thanks for shearing Clodius....
actually i'm writing a story about the Atlantis (sunken city) so i'm very curious about anything links to it...
and recently i found the story about this tablets, as i studied them, i should say they are very Interesting. so i was looking for valid information about them. and i found this amazing forum for help, and as you said maybe somebody else on the forum help me about them....
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thanks for shearing Clodius....
actually i'm writing a story about the Atlantis (sunken city) so i'm very curious about anything links to it...
and recently i found the story about this tablets, as i studied them, i should say they are very Interesting. so i was looking for valid information about them. and i found this amazing forum for help, and as you said maybe somebody else on the forum help me about them....
If you're interested in reading more about Hermes Trismegistos and the wisdom literature that was written in his name, you can read a full English translation of the Corpus Hermeticum here:

The Corpus Hermeticum & Hermetic Tradition -- The Gnostic Society Library
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Old November 13th, 2011, 12:56 PM   #7

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Crystal Links is reasonably fringe material. Doesn't mean it's not possible.

The best way to determine these things, whether they fall into the popular mainstream or if they are fringe concepts is to search and see if it's picked up primarily by indepedents, or if there are any major news or archeological sites picking it up as well.

Emerald Tablets of Thoth - Google Search


To my understanding emerald, quartz, and other materials like that can't necessarily be radio carbon dated making them extremely difficult to validate.

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Apollonius of Tyana and the emerald tablet


The figure of Apollonius of Tyana is associated with a story of an emerald tablet, and its is reasonably certain that Apollonius was an historical figure, especially in view of a recent inscription at the Adana museum. (See below)


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Authors of Antiquity: Apollonius of Tyana (aka Balinas via Arabic)



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Sirr al-Khalíqa (The Secret of Creation)

NB: Extended title - Sirr al-Khalíqa wa San‘at at-Tabí‘at(The Secret of Creation and the Craft of Nature)This work was derived by Apollonius (in Arabic Balínús) according to Jábir ibn Hayyán (722-815) from the Kitáb al-‘Ilal (The Book of Causes) of Hermes. It ranges from explaining the metaphysical origin of the universe to considerations on the ontological categories of the world and the nature of the human soul. The Arabic version of this book is no doubt based on an original written in Syriac, Balínús’ native tongue. A Christian monk of Neapolis in Palestine named Sájiyús states that he translated the work (into Arabic?) "so that those who remain after me may have the benefit of reading it." - Balínús, Sirr al-Khalíqa wa San‘at at-Tabí‘at (Kitáb al-‘Ilal), ed. Ursula Weisser (Aleppo, Syria: University of Aleppo, 1979) p. 100 According to the account recorded in the introduction to the Sirr al-Khalíqa, Balínús discovered both the Emerald Tablet of Hermes and the "Book of Causes" while exploring a crypt beneath a statue of Hermes: "Thus, I found myself across from an old man seated upon a golden throne who was holding in his hand an emerald Tablet on which was written: “Here is the craft of nature.” And in front of him was a book on which was written: “Here is the secret of creation and the science of the causes of all things.” With complete trust I took the book [and the Tablet] and went out from the crypt. Thereafter, with the help of the book, I was able to learn the secrets of creation, and through the Tablet, I succeeded in understanding the craft of nature. - Balínús, Sirr al-Khalíqa, p.7. There is another story in Philostratus (viii, 19-20), where Apollonius enters a cave at the temple of Trophonius in Greece to visit its oracle, declaring that his purpose is "in the interests of philosophy." After seven days, he returns to his companions, carrying a book of philosophy supposedly conformable to the teachings of Pythagoras. Philostratus says that this book, along with the letters of Apollonius, was later entrusted to the care of the emperor Hadrian and kept in his palace at Antium.The full text of the Emerald Tablet can be found at the end of the Sirr al-Khalíqa.
Here is the inscription to Apollonius: Click the image to open in full size.
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I believe there is some connection to the Rosecrucians, unless I have this confused with something else. There are plenty of websites about them.
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There are two different referents being confused here. The first is fromthe 1920's though purported to be ancient. I have studied this work and believe the author was very knowledgeable about physics and the ancient Egyptians and did a superb job.

The "real" Emerald Tablets describe using a cold water geyser to build but is mistaken to be about alchemy. It was probably found by the Caliphate Al Mamuun in the 12th century AD at the time he enterred the Great Pyramid. It's possible it was inscribed on the lid of the "sarcophagus" from the "king chamber".

The Book of THOTH - The Emerald Tablet of Hermes

The most accurate translation is from the 12th century Latin;

0) When I entered into the cave, I received the tablet zaradi, which was inscribed, from between the hands of Hermes, in which I discovered these words:
1) True, without falsehood, certain, most certain.
2) What is above is like what is below, and what is below is like that which is above. To make the miracle of the one thing.
3) And as all things were made from contemplation of one, so all things were born from one adaptation.
4) Its father is the Sun, its mother is the Moon.
5) The wind carried it in its womb, the earth breast fed it.
6) It is the father of all 'works of wonder' (Telesmi) in the world.
6a) Its power is complete (integra).
7) If cast to (turned towards- versa fuerit) earth,
7a) it will separate earth from fire, the subtile from the gross.
8) With great capacity it ascends from earth to heaven. Again it descends to earth, and takes back the power of the above and the below.
9) Thus you will receive the glory of the distinctiveness of the world. All obscurity will flee from you.
10) This is the whole most strong strength of all strength, for it overcomes all subtle things, and penetrates all solid things.
11a) Thus was the world created.
12) From this comes marvelous adaptions of which this is the proceedure.
13) Therefore I am called Hermes, because I have three parts of the wisdom of the whole world.
14) And complete is what I had to say about the work of the Sun, from the book of Galieni Alfachimi.

This is derived from the Pyramid texts which is actually a little more closely in agreemnt with the Chinese version since the rainbow (ordered lights above) are critical to this understanding.
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