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Old January 17th, 2012, 07:13 AM   #1

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Ethnicity of The Indus Valley Civilization


What is the ethnicity of the Indus Valley people? Are there any detailed DNA analysis research results out there in Internet or any book concerning this subject?
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Not sure but an often heard theory is that the Brahui people, the only dravidian speaking people in Pakistan are their descendents. How far we should believe this i am not sure because a Brahui is virtually indistinguishable from a Balochi. Maybe its just the Brahui always looked the way they do and the Balochi settled amongst them and the two groups mixed to become today indistinguishable. That is what i think this link is suggesting.

Brahui are something old, not new | Harappa Ancestry Project

"The civilization was literate, and its script, with some 250 to 500 characters, has been partly and tentatively deciphered; the language has been indefinitely identified as Dravidian."

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...s-civilization

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Not sure but an often heard theory is that the Brahui people, the only dravidian speaking people in Pakistan are their descendents. How far we should believe this i am not sure because a Brahui is virtually indistinguishable from a Balochi. Maybe its just the Brahui always looked the way they do and the Balochi settled amongst them and the two groups mixed to become today indistinguishable. That is what i think this link is suggesting.

Brahui are something old, not new | Harappa Ancestry Project

"The civilization was literate, and its script, with some 250 to 500 characters, has been partly and tentatively deciphered; the language has been indefinitely identified as Dravidian."

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...s-civilization
They are Meluhhans (Mlecchas). Details in 800 page book: Indian Hieroglyphs - Invention of Writing Amazon.com: Indian hieroglyphs: Invention of writing (9780982897126): S Kalyanaraman: Books
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I am not very aware of DNA tests in that region, however I guess we cannot talk about ethnicity since we have no idea of the concept in that area and in that period of time. We can only talk about genetic relation with other people later on. I wonder if the Elamites were related to the IVC.
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Indian?
Yes....I am very interested in the ' American' ethnicity!
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They are Meluhhans (Mlecchas). Details in 800 page book: Indian Hieroglyphs - Invention of Writing Amazon.com: Indian hieroglyphs: Invention of writing (9780982897126): S Kalyanaraman: Books
Wasnt pretty much the whole area today comprising of Pakistan considered to be occupied by Mleechas? In other words their descendents, the Punjabis and Sindhis would be the most likely descendents of the Indus people...
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First of all, I don't think the descendants of IVF would remain as a small ethnic group after 4000 years.

Second of all, why link IVF with Dravidian people? There is no connection except some wild theories by Victorian era historians.

Third of all, Pakistan was India half a century back, and it was in the Indian cultural system in the IVF too. Also 'mleccha' concept did not exist in IVF times. It existed only in later times and never contained Pakistanis, considering the fact that Gandhara(Qandar) was not mleccha.
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Wasnt pretty much the whole area today comprising of Pakistan considered to be occupied by Mleechas? In other words their descendents, the Punjabis and Sindhis would be the most likely descendents of the Indus people...
The present day Punjabi and sindhi can not be the descendants of IVC because the punjabi and the sindhis have Caucasian features predominantly. The IVC and Dravidian relation sounds sensible
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Sorry I meant IVC before, not IVF!

Also, what's your proof that IVC people were 'Dravidians'?
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