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Old May 7th, 2012, 12:54 AM   #21
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The home page of that page is in a pseudoscience webpage, pushing for Niburu and Vulcan. Which is BS, to put it politely.

Also, cursory reading of the links shows they are full of doomsday mysticism and precious little science, typical of the genre. Here is one little gem to illustrate how 'scientifically' the casuality figures are estimated for the Biblical Flood of ~2344 BC (a real event, folks!):
"The most important monuments are at a latitude of 48oN, because of the initial World Population of 4.8 million men. The RELATIVE LATITUDE determines the number of casualties48/90)x4.8= 2.6 million men. So, the number of survivors equals 4.8 - 2.6= 2.2 million men.It is that simple! ("Latitudes" were already used c.4700 BC)."
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and ?????

so this means that he doesn't have a rock in his hands and the geology is not there and Bob Napier doesn't know what he's talking about --- maybe next time i will post Napier's home page and book --
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Interesting, thanks.
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The impact of natural disasters is most apparent in the Saraswathy valley...

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You may note the dried up river bed of the lost Saraswathy river.Today the land has become a desert.The Capture of its main tributary Yamuna by the Ganges river due to tectonic upheavals around 1900 BC doomed the hundreds of cities and towns that depended on the river

Hundreds of cities and towns lay buried under the sands for over 4000 years .

In the picture below, note how the majority of the sites are along the Saraswathy and not the Indus

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https://sites.google.com/site/sarasv...o-channels.pdf







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River Saraswati originated in Himalayas and dried up during
2500-1500 BC, due to tectonic and palaeo-climatic changes. Varying number of courses of the
river have been suggested by the different workers. The obscured channels of the river could be
seen on the images from present day satellites. Using multi-spectral data from new generation
(Indian) satellites/ Sensors Efforts are made to reconstruct
the true course of the river and validate the same through a variety of scientific data generated
under the project by different agencies viz. Remote sensing data, data from core drillings and isotopic studies; data on ground water quality, yield, depth and age of ground water; litholog and sedimentological data, archeological finds, geomorphological data, historic maps etc. Reasons esponsible for disappearance of Saraswati are also analyzed.

Results indicate different reasons responsible for its disappearance. Analysis indicate that “Rise in Himalayas and consequent displacements in the Siwaliks and its foot Hills region (in the form of Yamuna and Satlej tear faults”) and not the “Rise along Delhi-Hardwar Ridge and movements along Kuchchh fault and Luni-Sukari lineaments with resultant westward slope changes” as suggested / believed by earlier workers was the main cause for ultimate drainage desiccation in the north-western Indian region. The results indicate that the river Sarasvati drained through present day river Ghaggar and did not drain along the Aravali hills in Rajasthan.

Also it did not shift its course drastically and continuously from east to west, as suggested by earlier workers. The image anomalies indicate that river Sarasvati flowed parallel to the river Indus as an independent river system (closer to the north-western Indian border) but did not flow through present course of river Nara. The mapped courses of Saras wati runs about 850-900 kms east, parallel to the Indus river course.
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Archaeological evidence for the Sumerian flood, in the form of widespread river silt deposits, coincides with the end of the Jemdet Nasr period c.2900 BC. Now, some Sumerian cities were already ancient settlements, up to 2000 years old, at that time. So, they would have formed tells, towering over the flood-plain below. Perhaps the Tigris & Euphrates overflowed, flooding out Sumer for several days or weeks, and leaving the Sumerian cities as "island communities" isolated amidst a (brief) inland sea? That could account for a general lack of flood-damage to the cities themselves -- they were left high & dry. But their farm-fields would have been devastated, and the event immensely memorable, cp. Pakistan floods of 2010:
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a little comment: There is no "upper limits" to natural disasters - or we could see if they kill humanity or even life on earth that is the limit, since most of us don´t care about other effects. So it is a very open, and fascinating, question what the historical effects has been until now. For all of human existence (not only the "civilized" parts), what more can be said than some obviously survived even the worst disasters, or we would not have been?
In summer 1994 pieces from Comet Shoemaker-Levy hit Jupiter. I have not asked an expert of the consequences if just one piece have hit earth instead, but I guess it would have been absolutely disaster on a global scale.
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Normally natural disaster plays no role in the downfall of a civilization. Indeed, they tend to be beneficial given a sufficiently long time frame.
Beneficial in what sense? I can understand a merely ecological view in that weaker humans are eradicated in a stroke and the opening of a new empty enviroment offers expansion to the eco-system and the creatures that inhabit it afterward, but in what way does that benefit a society which has suffered the disaster? How much of St Louis has been rebuilt after the Katrina Hurricane? How much of the US economy will survive and prosper after the Yellowstone Caldera finally blows its top again? (The volcanic cone is rising and is overdue for a periodic super-eruption).

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If a disaster occurs at just the wrong time it can appear to be instrumental in bringing down a culture when actually it was just another nail in the coffin.
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Man and civilizations occupy a niche and so long as that niche exists they will be there to fill it with or without the odd disaster.
Except that we happen to be the only species of human being still surviving on the planet. The others have all died out and that was largely due to natural factors. Our survival is not guaranteed and our increasing specialisation, such as dependence on infrastructure and technology, has introduced a vulnerability.
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I did of course mean New Orleans, not St Louis. Doh! I apologise for the mistake.
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if just one piece have hit earth instead, but I guess it would have been absolutely disaster on a global scale.
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think "dinosaur"
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