Ancient weapons designs. - Page 4 - Historum

**Labienus** · July 8th, 2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangekyou

The Knopesh is an Egyptian weapon, correct?

It was a Canaanite sword that the Egyptian adopted during the New Kingdom.

**Mangekyou** · July 8th, 2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Labienus

It was a Canaanite sword that the Egyptian adopted during the New Kingdom.

Interesting, thanks!

I bet the Assyrians had some useful weapons.

**Mangekyou** · July 8th, 2012, 02:04 PM

I know its not really ancient, but its still innovative, so im including it. The Duelling shield. Used in Germany and Anglo-Saxon England for Judicial combat. A very unique, offensive shield.

Maundu · July 9th, 2012, 03:36 AM

the rhomphaia sword looks pretty terrifying..

**Mangekyou** · July 9th, 2012, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Maundu

the rhomphaia sword looks pretty terrifying..

Good god that is terrifying!

I believe it was a Thracian weapon wasn't it?

It looks very similar to the Falx, used by the Dacians. I believe the Romans made their armour thicker/wore extra armour, to try and counter the devastation of such a weapon.

**Mangekyou** · July 9th, 2012, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mangekyou

I know its not really ancient, but its still innovative, so im including it. The Duelling shield. Used in Germany and Anglo-Saxon England for Judicial combat. A very unique, offensive shield.

Ok, what happened to my second pic, and replaced it with that ridiculous slogan underneath?

purakjelia · July 19th, 2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Roach

P.S. Crossbows were invented by the Greeks, not the Chinese. The Chinese adopted them after Alexander's conquest.

Absolutely NONSENSE !!!!!

First of all, Alexander the Great never reached ancient China, he stopped at India. His army was defeated by Indian war elephants.

Secondly, ancient Chinese invented the crossbow independently. The usage of crossbows in ancient China could be traced back to Sun Tzu's time, approximately 5th century BCE. The Chu kingdom was probably the first to use crossbows in warfare. The remains of an ancient semi-automatic crossbow had been discovered in an ancient tomb of the Chu kingdom. Later on the usage of crossbows had spread to other Chinese kingdoms of the Warring States period. During the Battle of Maling in 343 BCE, the crossbowmen of the Qi kingdom ambushed the infantrymen of the Wei kingdom.

Thirdly, the design of the ancient Chinese crossbow was different from that of the Greek crossbow. And also, ancient Chinese armies used crossbows extensively; in contrast, crossbow was never the essential weapon of ancient Greek armies.

You and your fellow eurocentrists should really learn some world history, and stop making such biased and ignorant claims.

Delenda est Roma · July 19th, 2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by purakjelia

Absolutely NONSENSE !!!!!

First of all, Alexander the Great never reached ancient China, he stopped at India. His army was defeated by Indian war elephants.

Secondly, ancient Chinese invented the crossbow independently. The usage of crossbows in ancient China could be traced back to Sun Tzu's time, approximately 5th century BCE. The Chu kingdom was probably the first to use crossbows in warfare. The remains of an ancient semi-automatic crossbow had been discovered in an ancient tomb of the Chu kingdom. Later on the usage of crossbows had spread to other Chinese kingdoms of the Warring States period. During the Battle of Maling in 343 BCE, the crossbowmen of the Qi kingdom ambushed the infantrymen of the Wei kingdom.

Thirdly, the design of the ancient Chinese crossbow was different from that of the Greek crossbow. And also, ancient Chinese armies used crossbows extensively; in contrast, crossbow was never the essential weapon of ancient Greek armies.

You and your fellow eurocentrists should really learn some world history, and stop making such biased and ignorant claims.

Do you have evidence Alexander lost at all? Much less in India to elephants.

purakjelia · July 19th, 2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Delenda est Roma

Do you have evidence Alexander lost at all? Much less in India to elephants.

Well, no matter he lost or not, Alexander stopped at the doorstep of India, and he did not venture furthur east. I think we all agree on that.

Anyways, the point of my statement was not to argue about whether Alexander lost or not, I replied just because that ignorant eurocentrist was claiming that ancient Chinese crossbow was copied from the Greeks after Alexander's conquest. He had no clues about what he was talking and he cannot provide any evidence to back up his absurd claim.

There was no contact between Alexander the Great and Warring States China, and the ancient Chinese invented their crossbows independently.

Delenda est Roma · July 19th, 2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by purakjelia

Well, no matter he lost or not, Alexander stopped at the doorstep of India, and he did not venture furthur east. I think we all agree on that.

Anyways, the point of my statement was not to argue about whether Alexander lost or not, I replied just because that ignorant eurocentrist was claiming that ancient Chinese crossbow was copied from the Greeks after Alexander's conquest. He had no clues about what he was talking and he cannot provide any evidence to back up his absurd claim.

There was no contact between Alexander the Great and Warring States China, and the ancient Chinese invented their crossbows independently.

I don't agree with the claim about the crossbows being invented by Greeks. But when you make remarks likr Alexander lost in India and call us all Eurocentric it hurts your argument and makes people more eurocentric.