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Old November 11th, 2008, 06:58 PM   #1
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I need help finding the name of a nearby tribe of the Chibcha tribe. They were supposedly a warrior-like tribe who wore armbands.
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Could you mean the Tairona? The priests wore gold armbands. They were infamous among the Spanish for their fierce resistance and the high level of casualties sustained during (and after) their conquest.

What do you mean by Chibcha tribe? There were half a dozen civilizations (Muisca, Tairona, Boruca, etc) who spoke Chibcha and most of those were tribal confederacies.

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they were also known as the baddest kick a$$ tribe in the region.
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If you're looking for the most powerful neighbour of all the Chibcha cultures, and who wore armbands, probably would have been the Inca especially during the Incan Civil War. Atahualpa's headquarters was in Quito, which is just next door, and he had an army of a quarter million men.

Tairona would be my pick if by "Chibcha" you mean one of the Chibcha groups. Sometimes people use the name Chibcha to mean the Muisca, which was one kingdom of Chibcha-speaking peoples.

Chibcha language covered most of Colombia and all of southern Central America, up as far as Honduras. Some Chibcha groups would also have been in contact with Maya, so it could be them too.

What's the reference? Have you got any more information other than that they wore armbands and were very fierce? Any location or geographic landmarks?
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I am also looking for what i believe is the same tribe, the tribe is ancient since before the incas, and by chibcha we do refer to the Muisca tribe. They were known as the baddest of the bad warrior tribe at that time who did wear armbands, around Lake Guatavita and I believe they were also known for having large penises. any ideas?
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The head-hunting Jivaro were supposed to have been badass. They were the only tribe to successfuly rise up against the Spanish.
They captured the Spanish governor then poured melted gold down his throat.
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He must have had a lot of trouble passing through airport security after that.
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I am also looking for what i believe is the same tribe, the tribe is ancient since before the incas, and by chibcha we do refer to the Muisca tribe. They were known as the baddest of the bad warrior tribe at that time who did wear armbands, around Lake Guatavita and I believe they were also known for having large penises. any ideas?
AFAIK, Lake Guativata was a Muisca site. Their kings were coronated there. It might just refer to the elite class of the Muisca themselves.
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AFAIK, Lake Guativata was a Muisca site. Their kings were coronated there. It might just refer to the elite class of the Muisca themselves.
no im not reffering to the elite Muisca chiefs, its a different tribe, i think they may have fought against the muisca chiefs but what i mainly know is that they are from the same region, wore armbands, were a very powerful warrior class and MAYBE, i saw maybe because this is rumored that they had Big penises.
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Guatavira is well within Muisca territory, but the Muisca were a confederacy. There were two main tribes, each with its own king: the Hunza or Tunja, whose leader was called the Zaque, and the Bacata, whose leader was called the Zipa.

The Bacata lived around Lake Guatavira. There was a ritual where the Zipa went out in a raft into the lake, covered in gold dust, and made offerings of gold and silver objects to the gods by throwing them in the lake. Guatavira was the main religious site of the Bacata.

It could just be a reference from the Hunza towards the Bacata. The Hunza had been the dominant tribe in the confederacy until the 1400s, then the Bacata gained supremacy, presumably through military dominance (all the Chibcha groups were very militaristic).

If you're sure that it refers specifically to the Muisca, it can't be the Inca or Jivaro, they're too far away. There were Chibcha groups there (and not far from the Maya, too) but the Muisca territory wasn't very big:

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If it's a neighbour of the Muisca there aren't many options, besides the Tairona or maybe one of the member tribes of the confederacy. Even the Tairona aren't really neighbours.

The name "Tairona" means "males" and the Tairona are supposed to have practiced alot of homosexuality and were very aggressive and warlike ... that might have something to do with the big penis thing. Some amazing goldwork turns up in Tairona sites, including alot of armbands.

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