Roman registers (notitia) translations? - Historum

the mighty pen · November 18th, 2012, 02:03 AM

I'm looking for english translations of various roman registers, but I can't seem to find them. Can anyone help me?

Notitia urbis Romae
Notitia urbis Constantinopolitanae
Notitia Dignitatum
Notitia Galliarum

and like articles.

I need these things very badly, and I can't find them anywhere. One would think these would be staples for any serious historian (although, to be fair, I guess any serious historian should be able to read them in Latin...)

If anyone can link me to translations of these things, I would be really grateful.

Thanks

Nego · November 19th, 2012, 01:25 AM

As in, direct translations of those terms or the lists that apparently will fall under them?

the mighty pen · November 19th, 2012, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nego

As in, direct translations of those terms or the lists that apparently will fall under them?

Are you being serious?

the mighty pen · November 19th, 2012, 05:09 AM

is this question really going to go unanswered? In a forum dedicated to discussing ancient history, no one has any idea how to come by some of the most important documents ever to come down to us from ancient times?
That's pretty sad.

gislio · November 21st, 2012, 08:33 AM

Have you tried Google. ?

the mighty pen · November 21st, 2012, 09:26 AM

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Have you tried Google. ?

yes, I'm beginning to think it doesn't even exist in english. I suppose it's not the hardest thing to translate, just a bunch of terms...
I did, though, find something that said the liverpool press was going to translate the notitia dignitatum. Those guys (and gals) are a godsend. Although, they did tell me almost 2 years ago that they were translating desiderius of cahors, but it seems to be a slow process, so it may be a while before the notitia is done.
I need it now...

Gudenrath · November 21st, 2012, 10:35 AM

Do you have JSTOR access? There is a Latin version with English translation of the Notitia Galliarum in the appendix to this article.

Translation of Notitia dignitatum here, but unfortunately only excerpts.

Doesn't seem like the other items on your list have been translated into English. You will have to do with a Google Translate from Latin to English. Hardly a scholarly edition, I know.

the mighty pen · November 21st, 2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gudenrath

Do you have JSTOR access? There is a Latin version with English translation of the Notitia Galliarum in the appendix to this article.

Translation of Notitia dignitatum here, but unfortunately only excerpts.

Doesn't seem like the other items on your list have been translated into English. You will have to do with a Google Translate from Latin to English. Hardly a scholarly edition, I know.

thank you. I appreciate the help

**Mangekyou** · November 21st, 2012, 02:45 PM

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Notitia urbis Romae

Very hard to find a translation of this.

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Notitia urbis Constantinopolitanae

You will have to purchase the document for this.

The Notitia Urbis Constantinopolitanae : Two RomesRome and Constantinople in Late Antiquity Oxford Scholarship Online

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Notitia Dignitatum

Internet History Sourcebooks Project

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Notitia Galliarum

There is an English Translation of this, but Im not sure whether its available online. If it is, you may have to purchase it.

You could try; New Pauly studies