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Old December 12th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #11

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I'm Greek and I've never heard that, where's your grandfather's village?
Karyes in the peloponnese my other vilagges are all in makedonia but I heard it from Karyes also known as arahova it is in between tripoli and sparti
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Karyes in the peloponnese my other vilagges are all in makedonia but I heard it from Karyes also known as arahova it is in between tripoli and sparti
That has to be something exceptional. Cretans are not notorious by any means. Especially in Makedonia, Cretans have a special position for their contributions in the region.

Anyway, Cretans are not originally Dorians of course. Dorians did settle in Crete, but still that doesn't apply a Spartan-like culture to Crete.
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...... Dorians did settle in Crete, but still that doesn't apply a Spartan-like culture to Crete.
Indeed, the Spartan culture is not common Dorian but an exceptional development after the conquest of Messenia.
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Karyes in the peloponnese my other vilagges are all in makedonia but I heard it from Karyes also known as arahova it is in between tripoli and sparti
Well I'm Greek from Messenia and I've never heard of it
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Interesting I thought that was common opinion in much oc greece that they are troublemakers

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Old December 14th, 2012, 08:54 AM   #16

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That has to be something exceptional. Cretans are not notorious by any means. Especially in Makedonia, Cretans have a special position for their contributions in the region.

Anyway, Cretans are not originally Dorians of course. Dorians did settle in Crete, but still that doesn't apply a Spartan-like culture to Crete.
obviously dorians werent native but I was of the opinion that all dorians had somewhat warlike culture
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That has to be something exceptional. Cretans are not notorious by any means. Especially in Makedonia, Cretans have a special position for their contributions in the region.

Anyway, Cretans are not originally Dorians of course. Dorians did settle in Crete, but still that doesn't apply a Spartan-like culture to Crete.
Yes I only heard that they were trouble makers from my village in karyes mainly maniates though but some said cretans to
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