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Old August 24th, 2013, 03:25 AM   #1
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Galatians are not Celtic?


While doing a little research I came across this paper:
http://www.proto-english.org/Galatians.pdf

I'm not a linguist, but some of this seems a little out there. Surely through the last 100yrs or so this would have come up that the Galatian tongue is more akin to Germanic then "Celtic".
One thing I think would be very interesting should this prove to be true is the relationship between the Skiri and the Galatians. Perhaps those who purpose that the Galatians attacking Olbia with the Skiri were actually the Bastarnae, this would add weight to their argument.
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Old August 24th, 2013, 04:37 AM   #2

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There has been a long discussion one year ago on a French forum, where one of the authors, Michael Goormachtigh tried to convince everybody that almost every word considered as Celtic can as well be explained with German roots. He was unsuccessful and left the forum.

It's certainly not easy to be sure that Galatian is a Celtic language. It would be certanly more difficult to proove it's a Germanic language.
What is sure is that most historians and linguists consider that Galatians were speaking a Celtic language and had a Celtic culture.
So the quoted authors represent a very marginal opinion among all scientists.
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Old August 24th, 2013, 04:48 AM   #3
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Maybe we take a look on the first germanics, which we know? maybe this can help us?
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They sure did tend to have Celtic names.
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It is alleged, I believe, that some Roman who'd lived in Gaul could understand Galatian. I've lost the source and don't know where to look, but I do tend to retain that sort of guff, so it does exist somewhere.
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It is alleged, I believe, that some Roman who'd lived in Gaul could understand Galatian. I've lost the source and don't know where to look, but I do tend to retain that sort of guff, so it does exist somewhere.
It was the 4th Century Christian saint Jerome. He remarked that the 'leading families' of Gaul were still trying to 'throw off the scurf' of their Gaulish language. Later on he claimed that anyone fluent in the Celtic language of Gaul could understand the speech of the Galatians.
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the tectosages are a tribe also known in gaul, and they are definitely celtic. Like Salah said, they have a lot of celtic names also.
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It was the 4th Century Christian saint Jerome. He remarked that the 'leading families' of Gaul were still trying to 'throw off the scurf' of their Gaulish language. Later on he claimed that anyone fluent in the Celtic language of Gaul could understand the speech of the Galatians.
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There is a theory going around, I'm not sure how credible, that Celts descended from Scythians. While another theory proposes that Germanics also descended from Scythians. If someone could prove, or give some clues, that Galatians also descended from Scythians, maybe that could link up everything.
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There is a theory going around, I'm not sure how credible, that Celts descended from Scythians. While another theory proposes that Germanics also descended from Scythians. If someone could prove, or give some clues, that Galatians also descended from Scythians, maybe that could link up everything.
the celts were heavily influenced by the scythians, for example the headhunting, i don't know how much they are descended from the scythians.
The Germanics are even less descended from Scythians i think.
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