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Old October 11th, 2014, 09:48 PM   #1
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Kassites and Indo-Europeans


"Several Kassite leaders bore Indo-European names, and they might have had an Indo-European elite similar to the Mitanni who ruled over the Language Isolate speaking Hurrians of Asia Minor."[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kassites"]Kassites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Who were these Indo-Europeans? Only few kassite Gods clustered with Indo-European ones:

Indash, possibly corresponding to Sanskrit Indra

Shuriash, corresponding to Babylonian Shamash, and possibly to Vedic Surya, also a sun god, but this might be the star Sirius, which has an arrow as a symbol


[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamash"]dŠamaš[/ame], possibly Sanskrit Sahi[9]

Kassite Gods


[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kassite_deities"]Kassite deities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


The Aryan Kassites of the ancient Middle East worshipped Vedic Gods like Surya and the Maruts, as well as one named Himalaya

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The animal in this seal is undoubtedly the 'unicorn' of Harappan seals.


Regarding Kassites,yes,they had few IA influences like the Mitannis.
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The animal in this seal is undoubtedly the 'unicorn' of Harappan seals.
Seems a bit of a stretch. I mean it looks a lot more bovine than the Harappan unicorn. Plus its a lot stockier. Any corroboration for linking them?
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Seems a bit of a stretch. I mean it looks a lot more bovine than the Harappan unicorn. Plus its a lot stockier. Any corroboration for linking them?
Obvious similarities.

Single horn,long tail,that pointed thing on its stomach etc

Harappan unicorns are sometimes stocky as well:

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Another Kassite seal depicting Harappan unicorn(the animal on the top left):

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This one even has marking on its neck,just like the Harappan ones....
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The Unicorn is a common motif across western-asia and quite a few mythologists tend to think it began as a version of a once common asian rhinoceros.

The first picture there though, the little triangle thing come down on it's stomach is it's penis. This could very well be just a representation of a bull or a rhino:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=bull+...+rhino&spell=1

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Obvious similarities.

Single horn,long tail,that pointed thing on its stomach etc

Harappan unicorns are sometimes stocky as well:

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Another Kassite seal depicting Harappan unicorn(the animal on the top left):

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This one even has marking on its neck,just like the Harappan ones....
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The Unicorn is a common motif across western-asia
Yes,but it is more common in IVC

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The first picture there though, the little triangle thing come down on it's stomach is it's penis.
Ah,thanks for pointing it out



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This could very well be just a representation of a bull or a rhino:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=bull+...+rhino&spell=1
Possibly,but rhinos doesn't have long tails and necks.Also in the Harappan seals,rhinos clearly have the rough coat with spots.
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